Kitchen Knives .. again

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  1. dbeeman

    dbeeman Gold Supporting Member

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    I read though all the knive threads and I still don't know

    What Chef and paring knives do I get for my son and daughter-in-law. They love to cook together,
    so I want to get them really good knives. Better than Henckel, etc, but something below custom boutiquey

    I like the idea of Japanese - but thereare so many choices I am clueless.
    I think they would take care of them -drying, storing properly, honing..
     
  2. DrewH

    DrewH Member

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    I've had the same set of basic Henkels for over 10 years. It's all the knife I'll ever need. I don't get the whole knife sniffing thing.
     
  3. teefus

    teefus Silver Supporting Member

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    global knives are very well made and fairly reasonably priced. check out the cutlery websites.
     
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  4. Fred132

    Fred132 Member

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    Maybe a set of overbuilt folding knives.
     
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  5. S1Player

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    I got a set of 2 knives at Costco that are easy to use and have held an edge for months after an initial sharpening.

    EDIT: Brand on these were Tramontina Santoku style knives. Great deal.
     
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  6. derekd

    derekd Supporting Member

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    Then you haven't used a nice Japanese knife, my friend.

    We have 4 Japanese knives, the chef's knife is a Shun. I forget the names of the others. Have a waterstone and keep'em razor sharp.

    Henkels are fine knives, just a different feel is all.
     
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  7. somecafone

    somecafone Member

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    Wusthof
    My first choice.

    Henkel also.

    You can get a good starter set with a block and they can add to it as they need.
    Williams Sonoma
    Sur La Table
    Probably Amazon too.

    Also, a good cutting board or two, of various sizes is absolutely necessary.
    Boos boards are great and if you wanna go "ornate" they offer a walnut option.
    I think the standard is maple.
    Yeah, guitar woods.
    One good size is about $44, so if there's an in-law or someone who needs a gift for them, it's not a huge expense.
     
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  8. CRAIG4FSU

    CRAIG4FSU Whatever... Silver Supporting Member

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    Now you're just being silly.

    I know squat about the kitchen sets. We received a set of Wolfgang Puck knives with blockthat have been fine for about 7 years now. Periodic sharpening and good to go.
     
  9. m@2

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    I purchased a Shun set on groupon that I used daily. Super sharp, well made, feel good in the hand
     
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  10. dbeeman

    dbeeman Gold Supporting Member

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    ahh... but which SHun model? There are like 10 different. This where I am confused. There are so many different Japanese knives even within a single company's wares.
    Hard to know which, what quality. I am tempted to go mid-high line. Cheapest is seldom a good buy and neither is most expensive
     
  11. davess23

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    The America's Test Kitchen folks do a great job of rating chef's knives, and they like a relatively cheap Victorinox (Model 40520) as much as the fancier stuff. I've seen that knife but never used one; however, I have a lot of respect for the Test Kitchen's opinions. Worth checking out.

    That said, I have two favorite chef's knives: one is a 35 year old French-made 9.5" blade hollow ground steel Chef Au Ritz sabatier that sharpens up to a razor edge like nothing else out there. Sweet knife and I wouldn't trade it for anything, but it requires some TLC to stay at its best. My other knife is a utilitarian stainless steel 8" blade Chinese Wolfgang Puck from a knife set I bought back in 2001. The whole set, with a block, was under $100 despite being nice quality cutlery; slave labor, perhaps? Anyway, the knife has stood up well over the past decade and a half, comparable in balance, ease of sharpening and edge retention with the Henckels my girlfriend uses.
     
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  12. dB

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    I've been eyeing the Shun Kanso's to replace my Henckels. They get great reviews and aren't nearly as gaudy as the rest of the Shun models. I also have a couple Wusthoffs that I think are superior to my Henckels.
     
  13. bonegrubber

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    Don't get caught up on a name. Plenty of great options out there these days. I think everyone (myself included) went through the stages of learning/wanting what we thought was 'chef' material. Shun is occasionally referred to as 'the bose' of the culinary world. I'm not trained though so take it with a grain of salt. I started with a Henckel and moved to Shun, paid a whack for two of them...and never really got along with either. About a year ago I ran into this when I decided to shun my Shuns. Could not be happier! Wonderful knife -- for me...and therein lies the issue: it's really hard to buy a gift knife unless you know what they like in one. What do they like to hold? What do they like to cook? Can they sharpen? etc. You may want to go with a gift certificate so they can go out and get a hands on, I dunno...just my 2cents. Good luck though! Don't spend your shirt, you really don't have to these days.
     
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    Global. Excellent knives which are utilitarian. They will be passed down to the grand kids.
     
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  15. Rick51

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    It's very difficult to buy well for someone's hobby. They may already know what they want. If it was me, I might give them a gift certificate for a high-end kitchen store and let them shop it.
     
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  16. morlll

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    I have 3 Sabatier knives that are very knice knives for my pocket book. They are about 30 years old.
    My daughter bought a set of 3 Henkel knives that are very sharp and hold a nice edge.

    I have one ceramic knife that's super sharp. Not that pricey either.

    There is a Japanese knife store here.

    Scroll down and take a look. I have been in there and tried them. It's a different animal all together, he looked at and sharpened my Sabatier knives for me. The Japanese knife are sharper than anything I have ever been near, they are amazing.


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    TOKU ATSURAÏ MANMOSU, GYUTO
    6,000.00

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    TOKU ATSURAÏ MANMOSU, SANTOKU
    5,100.00

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    TOKU ATSURAÏ TURQUOISE
    2,200.00

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    TOKU ATSURAÏ MOKUZAÏ, GYUTO
    1,800.00

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    TOKU ATSURAÏ MOKUZAÏ, SANTOKU
    1,600.00

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    TOKU ATSURAÏ MOKUZAÏ, KIRITSUKE
    1,500.00

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    TOKU ATSURAÏ MOKUZAÏ, GYUTO 210
    780.00

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    TOKU ATSURAÏ ORENJI, KIRITSUKE TANTO
    1,700.00

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    TOKU ATSURAÏ ORENJI, KIRITSUKE
    1,700.00

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    TOKU ATSURAÏ ORENJI, HAKATA
    1,500.00

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    TOKU ATSURAÏ ORENJI, NAKIRI
    1,600.00
     
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  17. LHanson

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    I have a block of Henkels, and one Global. All work well.
     
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  18. Don P.

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    I use Shun santoku and paring knives daily and I could not be happier with them. They replaced my old Wusthof knives that I used for years because they are sharper and lighter in weight. I would recommend going with a Japanese knife over a German one.
     
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  19. El Caballo

    El Caballo Retired bar hopping musician Supporting Member

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    Seriously........If you're going to spend 6k on a knife to cut tomatoes and onions....you're ****ed. Never in my live have I been so frustrated in meal prep that have I thought to myself, "this frustration would disappear if I only had some Japanese steel!". You "men" that are bitching about the weight of your knife having an impact on meal prep are a bunch of Nancy bois! Man up a little. Where the **** have the real men gone?
     
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  20. hellbender

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    My henckels get sharpened before every use.
     
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