Kluson style vs Grover roto's? Les paul related

[Charvel_ strat_81]

I am retro modding my tribute to 1959 type spec's and wanted to ask do the kluson tuners hold their tuning well?
right now the tribute has grover locking rotomatics and while these are probably"better" tuners i HATE the look of these!
i even took them off my charvels i hate the look so much.
will the gotoh kluson style or the klusons hold tuning?

 

[bluesjuke]

Yes they do.
Not a fan of Grovers myself.

 

[27sauce]

In the dozens and dozens of vintage and modern Kluson equipped guitars I've owned, I have never seen a Kluson slip, or not hold tune. I think Grover has mad a ton of cash on bad nuts.

 

[Carbohydrates]

Klusons are fine. If you want an even better tuner with the Kluson looks, there's always Tonepros. I don't like the look of Grovers on Les Pauls very much.

 

[Charvel_ strat_81]

thanks for the replies the grovers are officially "OUT"!

 

[bob-i]

In the dozens and dozens of vintage and modern Kluson equipped guitars I've owned, I have never seen a Kluson slip, or not hold tune. I think Grover has mad a ton of cash on bad nuts.

I'm going one step further, I've never had a tuner slip period. I've replaced tuners only because they bind or lose the smoothness in movement, but I've never had one slip. Any tuning slippage I've had has always been due to some other issue, nut, bridge, not stretching enough.

 

[kracdown]

I find some tuners to be more better at tuning... Sometimes one turn moves it too far, and i have trouble getting the guitar in tune... I use Grover rotomatics on my ES-339 and my R4, because I wanted more accurate tuning, and I think grovers are great looking. My SG has gotoh Klusons, which I think are amazing. So much better than what Gibson has been putting on their guitars. Really though, do what you think is most aesthetically pleasing.

 

[Carbohydrates]

I'm going one step further, I've never had a tuner slip period. I've replaced tuners only because they bind or lose the smoothness in movement, but I've never had one slip. Any tuning slippage I've had has always been due to some other issue, nut, bridge, not stretching enough.

Over ~45 guitars, I've had two with tuner slippage. Both were old Gibsons with 3-on-plate / 3-on-rail tuners. Never had an issue with any others.

 

[27sauce]

I'm going one step further, I've never had a tuner slip period. I've replaced tuners only because they bind or lose the smoothness in movement, but I've never had one slip. Any tuning slippage I've had has always been due to some other issue, nut, bridge, not stretching enough.

Given the mechanics, I can't even see how a tuner can slip at all?

 

[bob-i]

Given the mechanics, I can't even see how a tuner can slip at all?

I could see it if it was totally worn out, but how is that going to happen? It never rotates really fast enough to generate any real wear.

I swap tuners for 2 reasons only, weight, I used the lightest tuners I could find on an SG, and locks for guitars with trems.

 

[bluesjuke]

I could see it if it was totally worn out, but how is that going to happen? It never rotates really fast enough to generate any real wear.

I swap tuners for 2 reasons only, weight, I used the lightest tuners I could find on an SG, and locks for guitars with trems.

Part of the reason I do not use string winders, wear and tear.
Not that they are "high speed" but so put uneccesary strains on tuners if not used carefully.