Koch Studiotone vs. Hayseed 30 !!!

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  1. AchtungBaby

    AchtungBaby Member

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    Hello!
    I'm a brand new member and have a few questions about a specific tone that I'm looking for. I mostly play music in vein of ThePolice/u2/lovedrug/Copeland, and I am still in search of "The Amp". I think everyone knows what I'm talking about. Most people have an amp that epidemizes everything that they want in an amp, or pretty close to it. Im still looking for it. I know that I could accomplish this with a matchless, or a hotcat30, but, I dont have that kind of budget!
    I was first intrigued by the Koch Studiotone when I visited the t.c electronics site and the instructor was showing off the g system through one of these amps, and it sounded killer, at a great price too. But, for around the same price, the Hayseed 30 sure does get alot of love around here! So, any suggestions and/or clips would be very helpful. Thanks!
     
  2. AchtungBaby

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    any takers on the help front??
     
  3. Tag

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    Owned a Matchless DC 30, and have played all of the Matchless amps many, many times over throughout the years. I have owned 2 Badcats (black and Hotcat), and I prefer my Vox CC30 by FAR over any of them. Brand new about 800 bucks. Go get em!
     
  4. AchtungBaby

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    Thanks for the help! By cc30, do you mean the new ac30cc's??
     
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    the koch won't hold up with a loud drummer. it also sounds a bit more modern than a vox or hayseed
     
  6. danel59

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    I can't comment on the Hayseed but I can comment on the Studiotone. As far as keeping up with a drummer, I use one in an 8 piece band and have no problems but I do admit that I am micing it through the PA but as far as monitoring onstage works fine and sounds great to me! Try it out is all I can say.

    Good luck in your search

    Dan
     
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    Yes. They SMOKE!! :dude :dude :dude :dude :dude
     
  8. AchtungBaby

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    Good to hear! I think they may carry one at a G.C pretty close to my house. I'll go check it out! That would be great if it had the tone I'm looking for, because that would be a blessing on the wallet!!!! I could get an ac30ccH and a vox 2x12 cab for half the price of a matchless head ha.
     
  9. sundaypunch

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    I can't speak for the Koch. The Hayseed is classic AC30 with some excellent options (EF86, half power switch, etc.). It also is hand wired, affordable, and you can get pretty much any configuration you want when it comes to transformers, speakers and cosmetics. There are some excellent clips at the Valvetech website that are representative of the amp.
     
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    Mine really smoked :dude :dude :dude :dude





































    When it was finished, I had to air out the room for half a day :messedup :(
     
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    I dont really like the vox sound very much. I find it too boxy. But I love the studiotone, sort of like mix between a vox and Fender and i love that!
     
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    In my opinion the Korg TBX version of the AC30 beats out the current CC line. I own 2 Hayseeds, so that would give you an indication of how much I like them. Haven't had the pleasure of hearing the Koch, though.

    An AC30-type amp just isn't quite right without Celestion Alnico Blues, Eminence Red Fangs, or Weber Blue Dogs loaded in there. A new Vox with Blues will run you much higher than $800, but the speaker upgrade is worth it, at least to me, if you want the Vox tone.

    Hayseeds are a great value (and the tone is killer), but the wait is long, and if you need something sooner than 6 months from now, you may want to check out used (or new) Voxes. The Cage Corsa is apparently a pretty awesome amp too, and it's another cathode-follower EL84 circuit.
     
  13. Nolatone Ampworks

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    I can second this experience. I tried my Studiotone with my band (drummer and bass player at the time, I've since added another guitar player) and not only did it keep up, the other guys were complaining that it was too loud! I was able to have clean headroom with the clean channel and the od channel had nice crunch.

    If you need it to carry more umph, plug it into a 2x12 extension cab with efficient speakers and it will go to the next level!

    Paul
     

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