Discussion in 'Guitars in General' started by suparsonic, Aug 25, 2017.
Also, check how you're stringing it. There's a method for three-tuner-per-side guitars in Dan Erlewine's book (which he says is a method from Martin guitars). I do this, as well as lube the nut slots and bridge saddles, and stretch them a bit, and have no tuning issues whatsoever with my LP.
It's funny that Gibson will put that Borg auto tuner thingy on the back of the headstock rather than taper the tuners inwards like a PRS. All because they worry die hard fans would not like a change in the headstock design.
Odds are Gibson cut the nuts for 9's. It's the nut.
Not that I want to dump on Gibson. I own 3. I'm a fan.....but....cutting a good nut is one of their weaknesses.
Get the nut checked out and get some big bends but sauce.
Throw some Paradigm Ernieball strings on their and try some Big Bends Nut Sauce on her then see if the tunes up nice!
They have cut them fo 9's for years havent they?
Pretty sure, yes. That why when you go up to 10's they bind in the slots. I prefer 10's on my Les Paul and have had to file the slots on all of them. No problems since.
I had bone nuts installed on mine by a very respected local shop.
10's worked fine after that.
Lube the nut and see if the problem goes away. Probably free to try, so nothing to lose
My only Gibson binds at the nut. No pinging, but still binding in the slots on most strings. 30 seconds to pop each string out of the slot and dab in a little lithium grease, and the problem is gone.
It has worked so well that I haven't bothered with adjusting the nut yet. When i switch from 9s(stock) to 10s, I'll probably work on the slots a bit, but may try it without just to see how the lube does for the larger gauge.
Gibson will PLEK their guitars and then put a shi**y nut on it.
That cracked me up - hilarious
I think that will make matters worse.. you are forcing the string out of a strait line to the tuner, and just cause there's a little wheel doesn't mean that it won't cause more friction. I.e., tuning problems
I had this issue with my Les Paul when I first got it
Get a new Bone nut installed
Then use this string wrap technique
(Also make sure you are stretching the hell out of your new strings when you put them on)
These steps fixed my staying in tune issue 100%
I've been wrapping my strings like that since I can remember. LPs' have been my worst guitars at holding tune.
Loose truss rod adjusting nut - check it out
If you want to spend money:
Gibson stock tuners aren't great, and they are OEM 14:1 ratio IIRC? You can replace with 18:1 closed or open gear tuners, also replace the nut with a TUSQ Earvana.
Make sure when you tune that you never tune down to the note, always tune up! Otherwise you end up with tension behind the nut greater than after the nut = as soon as you bend a string it will pull through the nut and you'll be low.
Also lubricate you nuts lol. I use finger-ease on my strings and it keeps the nut lubed too. I never have any issues.
I just installed the String Butler. It is working pretty awesome
The nut is PLEKED, which explains the shallow nut slots. The machine cannot handle a decent height nut, let alone angle the slots parallel to the headstock.