Les Paul Neck Pickup-too much bass

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  1. Killcrop

    Killcrop Supporting Member

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    The pot is a 500K. One of the RS superpots. The pickup currently in the guitar and has been for a while is a Burstbucker 1. It's under 8K if I recall.

    I have messed with the pole adjustments. This particular LP is just a really thick sounding guitar. Which works great for the bridge but has some challenges for the neck.
     
  2. walterw

    walterw Gold Supporting Member

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    are they all 500k?
     
  3. Killcrop

    Killcrop Supporting Member

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    I replaced all 4 at the same time.
     
  4. Grenville

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    Rewire the pickup to parallel instead of series; less output, more clarity.

    I also use a Timmy pedal, always on, and dial out a bit of low end.
     
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  5. rockabilly69

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    Les Pauls are my favorite guitar, with all diferent pickup sets. First off, to start, EQ your amp for the ultimate neck pickup tone, then when you kick on the bridge pickup, dial back the tone knob so it's not so bright. If you set the amp for great bridge pickup tone to start, on most Les Pauls you're going to fight the neck pickup with it being muddy!
     
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  6. Deed_Poll

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    I use an unpotted neck pickup for what that's worth, and wire the neck volume pot as a treble bleed. But I guess that's a similar thing to the SD trick with the capacitor?

    I usually find hollow guitars brighter sounding, and I always put that down to the body being somewhat like a Helmholtz resonator and effectively harvesting its own resonant frequency from the string, so your plugged in sound is kinda the opposite of the unplugged sound. But I might be wrong.

    Good luck! I'll be interested to hear if that capacitor trick works for you.
     
  7. TA22GT

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    This. Because it's bassy it is very easy to lower the pole pieces flush with the cover and then keep lowering the pickup.
    This causes both coils to voice and because the pickup is low it becomes boomy. The note is unfocused.

    Raise the polepieces about 1-1/2 turns above the cover and raise the pickup if you have it really low. The polepieces give a more focused note that rings instead of booms! As you raise it you hear the note come in to focus. Hope that makes sense!
     
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  8. Roe

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    - try a thornbucker (or even a firebird pickup)
    - use a noload tone pot
    - a 1m vol pot
    - remove pickup cover
    - lower polescrews on bass side
     
  9. Terry McInturff

    Terry McInturff 40th Anniversary of guitar building! Gold Supporting Member

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    Try the great suggestions given thus far! But if you are jumping through hoops, having to do rather unusual things, its possible that the acoustical signature of the guitar isn't right for your needs..... :(
     
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    I like the 1m vol pot idea
     
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    what would a 1m pot for volume AND tone do for a neck pickup in a les paul type guitar?
     
  12. Rod

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    I disconnect the tone pots on the neck pu of my LP’s and put a treble bleed Duncan resistor/cap paralleled on the volume pot. Raise the neck pu polepieces, lower the pu more on the bass side..takes care of the boom....
     
  13. Jackie Treehorn

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    The series capacitor trick works fine. Does exactly what you want, removes the excessive bloat in the lows. I have a .1 in my tele neck pickup, which really just shaves off that low bloat that hits the amp wrong. Very subtle, but very effective.
     
  14. Tone Meister

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    Yeah, I'd definitely try the series cap first for about $0.25 before spending a wad or performing major surgery. Very effective for solving the OPs complaint but clearly doesn't cost enough to be endorsed by TGP.
     
  15. Roe

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    It would sound brighter but the tone pot may not work well unless you really turn it down. A 500k no-load pot is better
     
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    Geez, guys. You see that middle screw on the pickup surround on the bass side? Turn it counter-clockwise to lower the bass side of the pickup until it is balanced.


    Bob
     
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    Wonder how Seymour Duncan missed that?
     
  18. Bob Womack

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    Yeah. Surely he's worked with Joe at some point... ;)

    Bob
     

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