Les Paul Special: Should I even consider doing what I want to do?

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  1. 2HBStrat

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    I like the Les Paul Special as a platform.....however, I find the P-90 pickups too noisy for me to actually use on stage, and I haven't heard any P-90 replacement pickups that I like the sound of, and I'm not a big fan of the two volume, two tone control wiring. Would it be stupid to buy a new Les Paul Special and rout it for humbuckers and totally rewire it just because I like the basics of the neck and body? :omg

    Thanks!
     
  2. dirk_benedict

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    so what is it about the LP Spec that you want then?

    ithere are a ton of single cutaway guits out there with single vol/single tone knobs and two hb's. may not say gibson on the headstock,though.

    also- maybe try some kinman noiseless p90s (if its just noise you are looking to tame)
     
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    My Les Paul Special has 2 noiseless Lindy Fralins... it rocks seriously...
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  4. mark norwine

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    a big +1 on the fralins.....

    but to your question: should you buy a new special & rout it? Sure! Why not?! Life's short...have fun!

    But if you don't like 2+2 controls, that's what a special has, right? So why not buy a junior & route it?

    Heck...while you're at it, re-drill it for a wrap tail & do it up right!
     
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    i'd say go fralins.. or even duncan make stacked P90's.
     
  7. 2HBStrat

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    What I LIKE about the Les Paul Special is the shape, the feel, and the weight. And I love Mahogany wood. I LOVE the sound of P90 pickups but I can't tolerate the noise. If the Fralin hum cancelling p90's sound good, then that's obviously an option. As for the wiring, I would like one master volume, one master tone, and a volume for each pickup individually (like Gretsch?).
     
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    are you talking double cutaway or single cutaway?
     
  9. scr@tchy

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    the special sl is a special body with humbuckers
     
  10. RockStarNick

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    Gibson made some LP Specials, with buckers, a few years ago for GC. They came in cinnamon, black, and natural, and they go for pretty cheap used. Why not get one of those, and save yourself a butt-ton of work, money, and not hack up a P90 one? :huh
     
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    You could always install mini humbuckers, and they would be an easy fit without routing.
     
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    Check out the Ilitch Electronics noise-canceling system, he also has it for LP Specials. Basically the same as the Suhr system.
     
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    Don't route it up. Too much work, it will kill the value of the guitar and as many have pointed out,there are other good options.
     
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    Why don't you buy an SG?
     
  15. 2HBStrat

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    I'll check that out!

    I have an SG Special already (an old one) and it's great, but having it makes me know what I would want in a similar type guitar. A little more weight (less top heavy than the SG) and a different feel on the body because of the strap placement (as well as the other things I mentioned above). The Les Paul Special seems like the perfect platform.
     
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    The HD VP-90 pickups I put in an Orville LP Special are outstanding. Big sound and the quietest P-90s I've played.
    MD
     
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    If it was a vintage guitar I'd try to talk you out of it, but you're proposing a personalized hot rod based on a platform you already know will be perfect.
    Don't bother searching for another guitar which may or may not fit you so well, just rout it for humbuckers already!
     
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    why not just buy a special with humbuckers? Right now, your choices new are the GC exclusive LP Special Pro or one of these babies in pelham blue or black:

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    or pick up a used special like I did. $480 with a hard case and this thing breathes fire!

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    :agree
     

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