Lighter weight alternative to Fender Twin

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  1. hhawkins

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    What's a good light weight alternative to a Fender Twin?

    It's my main gigging amp at the minute but the thing breaks my back every time I have to lift it and I'm getting a bit fed up with it. I like the sound of it and it works for me because I play a lot of blues stuff. But man, it's like trying to lift the front end of your car up every time.

    Any good alternatives that have a lot of clean headroom like a twin, but is considerably lighter in weight?

    Thanks.
     
  2. Primakurtz

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    Have you tried replacing the speakers with Jensen Neos? That made my twin much lighter.
     
  3. mark norwine

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    neos help....

    But "big tube power" comes from "massive transformers". There's your weight right there, and there's not a lot that can be done to avoid it.

    You could get a head cab, put your twin chassis into it and turn your combo into a head / cab setup....you don't reduce the weight, but you divide it up into two separate trips to the equipment truck.
     
  4. ChampReverb

    ChampReverb Silver Supporting Member

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    How about getting a Twin Reverb Head Cabinet and a separate speaker cabinet?

    -bEn r.
     
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    I'd be interested to hear how a DR+Unleash+Neo compares to a twin in terms of thump capacity
     
  7. eddie knuckles

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    There are actually a lot of good, practical, non-back breaking usable options. Try a Fender Concert, a head and cab combo of your choice.... neodymium speakers... tons and tons of options...

    Do you really need 85/100 clean watts, or is less than that ok?
     
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    ^^^^
    This... with neo speakers.
     
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    Crabby Guy Amps built me a single-4 Ohm Texas Heat 12" Blackface MonoTwin (Reverb channel only). Way lighter than "real" Twin.
     
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    This is what i did. I'm much happier
     
  11. mark norwine

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    Comparing the thump of a DR and a TR?

    There's no comparison to be made. It's not even close!

    Thump comes from lots of big tubes, and big iron delivering high current......none of which a DR has.
     
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    If it doesn't have to be a tube amp, check out the Quilter stuff.
     
  13. riffmeister

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    There is no substitute. Maybe find a Dual Showman Reverb head and cab.
     
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    Yup, totally agree. BUT thump is also amply supplied by a SS power section w a toroidal transformer, which is what the Unleash brings. So I don't know how that changes the equation.
     
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    I am in the same boat.
    I play a TRRI,which I love and won,t part with.
    I think I will get a Dual Showman head and an open back 2x12 cabinet.
    I bet the head weighs almost the same as a Twin combo,but would be a lot easier to lift and carry,in spite of it's weight.
    Does anyone actually know what a Dual Showman head weighs?
     
  16. riffmeister

    riffmeister Gold Supporting Member

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    Right around 50 lbs.
     
  17. broken_sound

    broken_sound Silver Supporting Member

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    DS heads weigh around 40-45 pounds, they're freaking huge. A Twin head will weigh slightly less.

    If OP doesn't mind lugging around two individual items, head and cab with neo's is a super safe bet. But if you like the sound of your twin, I wouldn't suggest getting anything else because nothing else that fender makes really hits or sounds like a twin.
     
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    As mentioned, the twin has the big transformers and big magnet speakers. Most the weight in an amp are those two things. Only thing I can think of is go to a 1 x 12 baffle and hi wattage neo speaker. That might save you 15 lbs? Are you a reverb guy? if not go to a single showman. The reverb tank weighs what..4 lbs? For custom... if you get away from reverb and trem, pull those tubes and V1 pre tube.... a smaller Power Trans would probably do it. I could envision a custom TR weighing easily 20-25 lbs less.
     
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    Is there another way to approach this problem? Can you use a hand truck?

    You won't get the Twin sound otherwise. You need the heavy iron to give you that big sound. I doubt that Fender deliberately designs their amps to be as heavy as possible.
     
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    How about a Groove Tubes Soul-O 75? Clean at any volume + a dirt channel.
     

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