Line 6 HX Stomp

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  1. phil_m

    phil_m Supporting Member

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    Without power, neither the "polarity" switch nor the Mode switch on the FS-7 have any bearing on the switch functions. It defaults to momentary, normally-closed.
     
  2. TimH

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    Ok can someone give me the concise and definitive version of what adaptor(s) I will need to use 2 Strymon Zuma outputs to power my HX Stomp?
     
  3. Elantric

    Elantric Silver Supporting Member

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    some alternative ideas here

    Re: Line-6 - HX STOMP FAQ

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    https://www.soft.com.sg/forum/showthread.php?214640-NPD-Mini-expression-controller-for-M9
    NPD: Mini expression controller for M9
    For all the kaypohs that were wondering, this is the pedal that I got tyzjames to build, a mini expression controller for my Line-6 M9.

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    As you may know, the Line 6 Helix/HX Effects/HX STOMP/ M9 allows you to use up to 2 expression pedals to control any parameter/knob on any of the effects. One of my favourite tricks is to use the expression pedal to turn one preset into two. For example, using the Tube Drive model, I set the gain low and volume high for a clean boost, and then assign the exp pedal to increase gain while lowering volume, to get an overdrive sound while maintaining the overall level.

    While this is useful, I'm too lazy to carry an expression pedal, much less two of them. So based on the ideas in this Line 6 forum thread, I decided to improve on the design.

    The controller contains 2 independent "expression pedals", with 2 outputs so you can assign them separately on the M9.

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    The left side is the basic design, only switching between "heel" and "toe" positions. Good for creating pairs of presets as I mentioned above.



    The right side has a pot instead of the fixed 10k ohm resistor. The benefit of this is you can assign multiple parameters on the M9 to the single knob on the controller, so you can achieve your crazy yet controlled oscillating delays by moving your foot and looking cool, instead of bending down and looking like a mad scientist tweaking 5 knobs with your hands.

    Best of all, it's in a tiny EP Booster-sized enclosure and will easily fit at the front of your pedalboard.

    All in all I'm very happy with it and highly recommend all M9/M13 users to consider adding one to your setup. Huge thanks to tyzjames / Morningstar Custom Pedals.
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    https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?posts/20980900/
    Joe wrote>
    I hope this will help you... Your exp pedal should be connected with a mono cable and the pot can be any value, including Line 6 10k Ohm pots... but, it has to be wired like this....

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    You can re-wire/ re solder your pedal to make it work properly

    Here are the plans to do that plus the wiring for some other expression pedals...

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    I hope this helps

    Seeya

    Joe
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    https://line6.com/support/topic/33187-expression-pedal-auto-engage/

    The Helix expects a TS plug - not TRS as many expression pedals have.

    Per the Roland web site the EV-5 is TRS so that won't work as is and would have to be modified.

    I attached a schematic for the EV-5 mod. Thanks to the author of these circuits! I forget where I downloaded them from.



    I use a Moog EP-3. It has a TRS connector but I rewired it for TS using the attached schematic.

    Most common TS expression circuits use a 10k pot but my Moog EP-3 has 100k pot and it works fine.

    Not sure why the graphic shows a 10k pot for the EP-3. Mine is 100k.








     
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  4. MixMinisterMike

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    Brilliant, thanks!
     
  5. StormJH1

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    Huh. I just checked the app and it still shows "In Stock & Ready to Ship". That means it should have them available for "Ship to Store", which generally takes place within 5-7 days, in my experience.

    Note that this is different than the individual store locations having them in stock - I do not know of any physical stores that have them, though I'm sure there's anecdotal examples of that here and there.
     
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  6. Elantric

    Elantric Silver Supporting Member

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    Agreed!
    click here:
    https://www.guitarcenter.com/Line-6/HX-Stomp-Multi-Effects-Processor-Pedal.gc

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  7. DisasterArea

    DisasterArea Owner, Disaster Area Designs and Alexander Pedals

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    Presets, yes. Tempo should be no problem - the HX can either use a MIDI CC or MIDI clock to set that.

    I'm still waiting to receive my HX so I can test the looper control but we should be able to handle it without issue. As for turning FX on and off, not with the DMC-8 at this time.
     
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  8. DarrellM5

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    That should work. I'm looking into taking that route myself.
     
  9. jayspencer

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    The only thing i think might not work, is if the two EXP knobs are already assigned to the EXP-1/EXP-2 in the HXS, can you then also assign Midi Footswitches to be FS-4 and FS-5? Does anyone know if this is possible?
     
  10. DarrellM5

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    I'm confused (and by no means a MIDI expert). Since the HX Stomp can have the FX toggled on/off via MIDI, and it can learn the incoming MIDI command to do so, wouldn't just about any MIDI controller be able to do this?
     
  11. Michael Evrard

    Michael Evrard Member

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    How about one of these? This and and two expression pedals would be super cool
    http://www.tech21nyc.com/products/effects/midimouse.html
     
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  12. Phillip_H

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    I almost ordered one from GC, but then remembered that they charge tax - $50 in TX. I'd rather wait a couple of weeks.
     
  13. radiolab

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    I’m sure I can find the answer digging through this huge thread but I’m not feeling reading 100 pages to find one answer. Someone please help. If I connect a boss fs with two buttons on it, does it basically expand the HX Stomp to five stomp switches?
     
  14. BoneSaw

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    I just ordered one from GC and it said in stock ready to ship. I almost forgot I had a $475 gift card,so only $160 out of pocket.:cool:
     
  15. DarrellM5

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    I don't know if you can assign MIDI footswitches to be FS4 and FS5 but I'll bet you can assign them to do whatever tasks you planned on using FS4 and FS5 to accomplish.
     
  16. DarrellM5

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    Which Boss FS? It should work if it's a momentary switch and uses a TRS cable.
     
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  17. PaisleyWookie

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    I'm confused as to how two Zuma outputs (500Ma each) can power a 3000Ma device. I've got a Zuma now for my board, and would buy another if this'll work.
     
  18. Elantric

    Elantric Silver Supporting Member

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    I figure the HX Stomp draws 1200mA (1.2 Amp) "nominal" steady state DC current

    But during initial power on - the power supply needs a bit of Headroom for momentary "inrush current"
    https://www.sunpower-uk.com/glossary/what-is-inrush-current/

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    https://www.loxone.com/enen/kb/inrush-current/



    https://www.kew-ltd.co.jp/en/support/mame/detail.php?id=59

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    How to Measure DC Current

    Clamp on to a conductor just the same way as with AC current measurement using an AC current clamp meter. In the case of DC clamp meters the reading is positive (+) when the current is flowing from the upside to the underside of the clamp meter.



    https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/a-look-at-the-uni-t-ut210e/
     
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  19. PaisleyWookie

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    That's my concern; the initial inrush current. I'd LOVE to be able to buy another Zuma, power the Stomp with two, and then have 6 or 7 more for other pedals. That'd kick ass.
     
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  20. Dan Desy

    Dan Desy Supporting Member

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    If I never read another post on power adapters, I’d be fine with it.
     

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