Lock picking anyone?

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  1. wahfreak

    wahfreak Member

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    For the longest time I've thought about picking locks as a small hobby. Just one of those things that might be a nice skill to have, like knot tying. It doesn't seem to be expensive to learn, just a small set of picks and a few locks to get started.

    Anyone else do it that could shed some light?
     
  2. FFTT

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    I got into my neighbor's house when she locked herself out in about 12 seconds.

    Expired credit card.

    Not a scratch on the door or weatherstripping.
     
  3. eniam rognab

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    Check out bosnianbill on youtube
     
  4. Tom CT

    Tom CT Old Supporting Member Gold Supporting Member

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    How did you get the card into the little keyhole?
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    Just be aware that in some jurisdictions possessing lock picking tools is illegal, sometimes even a felony, unless you're a bonded locksmith. Check your local laws before you take it up as a hobby.
     
  6. pjs ire

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    That's what she said!
     
  7. lp_bruce

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    That is a good piece of advice right there.

    I think knot tying is an very useful skill, it's easier to learn, and it's not a felony to own a rope (it's what you do with it...)

    Peace,
     
  8. dohmar

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    Yeah I've picked a bunch of locks, mostly because of teenage boredom but those skills did come in handy when I forgot my keys.
    The credit card thing only works when the door has been assembled with the latch facing the wrong way, or in 2 way doors where there is no strip of wood facing the angled section of the latch. In those cases the credit card just pushes the latch back on the angled side, but not all doors have free floating latches, deadbolts certainly don't.

    The more pins in a tumbler, the harder it is, and if the lock has a bi-lock key its almost impossible. Locks from 3-5 tumblers are relatively easy to pick, 6 pins or above start getting difficult.
    You can use a variety of methods, from actually picking the tumbler, to pin bouncing with a skeleton/00 key, or if you need rapid entry you can smash a piece of acrylic into the lock with a mallet. You won't be able to remove the acrylic but you'll be able to get in quickly enough (it kills the lock).

    If you're gonna do it for a challenge of hobby proportions, buy a 6-7 pin padlock at your local hardware store, a small jewelers file and a metal nailfile and have at it.

    -D
     
  9. FFTT

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    Typical entry way lock, not a dead bolt.

    Open your door. Push on the latch and it goes in right?
    If it has the separate little key piece and you push that in, the latch won't retract all the way.

    You would be amazed how many doors were never set properly for that little key to catch.

    The credit card or stiff ID card is strong enough to push the latch in, slide past it and tah dah! You're in.

    Her husband was glad I got her in but totally freaked out how easy it was.

    I sent him to a good lock shop for Medeco Locks and heavy latch guards.
     
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  10. FFTT

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    Kwikset are the worst, cheapest easiest to defeat.
    Even some of their dead bolts can be pushed in with a screwdriver.

    This is why you want heavy duty double throw dead bolt locks on all exterior doors.
    There should be no play at all where the door latches.

    Buy heavy latch guards, I mean 1/8" steel that will not bend with channel locks or a crow bar.
    If anyone gets past that, at least you'll have signs of breaking and entering to report.
     
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  11. NewLeaf09

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    Yes but some are harder than others. I once gained entry with the metal strip peeled from a wooden ruler and it took less than a minute - dumb luck that time. Used to be you could buy picks at just about any gun show and I recall seeing the vibrating pick guns for sale in the backs of magazines, though I never bought one.
     
  12. FFTT

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    Local police have a pressure bar that cranks down pushing the door frame apart enough for the latch to clear.
     
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    Wait... what kind of deadbolt should I have? And how does it attach?

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    Peace,
     
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  14. FFTT

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    If I were building the house again, I'd have door jams hung on a 4X4 OAK frame.
    Those don't bend much.
     
  15. FFTT

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    There's only one lock I've never defeated with the door properly installed, Medeco.
    Expensive, but top quality.
     
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    Good advice there. I always liked the design of the NYC Police lock (as seen in the 'Catburglar' movie with Whoopi Goldberg) where the door is made of metal and there is a latching bar that fixes into a floor recess and barricades the door at a 45' angle. No bloody way you're getting through that unless you can affix a chain to the door and rip it outward with a truck or something

    -D
     
  17. FFTT

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    Problem with typical steel door frames is that the steel is thin enough to still bend at the latch with enough force.
    Once you get play in latch/frame area with some jiggle room, the lock can be defeated by brute force.
     
  18. FFTT

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    The worst door destroyers were the cable guys working piece work.
    If they couldn't get in, they didn't get paid.
     
  19. Tom CT

    Tom CT Old Supporting Member Gold Supporting Member

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    FFTT - You're not picking locks - you're defeating deadbolts. I don't believe that's what the OP was inquiring about.
     
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  20. Tone_Terrific

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    I had to have CAA open my car door once a little while back.
    10 seconds. No damage.
    I 'lock' guitars in there.:oops:
     

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