Long shot custom Epiphone question...

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  1. lennon08

    lennon08 Member

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    So I bought this guitar roughly 10 tens ago. It has always been a mystery to me.

    So here is what I know:

    It was originally bought at a Dallas guitar show
    I bought it from Michael Guthrie in Athens
    The sticker says it is a Sheraton II (plays/feels nothing like my mid 90's Sheraton II)
    Sticker also says Noel Gallagher model (this looks more like his Union Jack than the ones Epi made years ago including the correct tailpiece and pickups)
    It plays and sounds great.
    On the back of the headstock it has Custom plate
    Of course the serial# has been blackened out. I think I can read the last for digits.

    Any ideas would be great, Thanks for reading.

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  2. I'm Incinerator

    I'm Incinerator Supporting Member

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    Wow,

    I have never seen one of these except in the hands of Noel Gallagher!!! I swear I've seen some non-vinatge Epiphone Sheraton in this style aside from the John Lee Hooker model ie the Cherry finished Sheraton that Gem Archer has played in the past with Oasis...just wondering if there was a limited run released in Japan or for another country or shop exclusive??
     
  3. Ilfeldt

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    Ain't that an epiphone super nova?
    the noel gallagher signature version og the sheraton II
    Link

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  4. lennon08

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    I'm Incinerator, I wish I knew. It is a great guitar but a def mystery to me.

    Ilfeldt, no it is a bit different. The one that Epi put out in mass production really is nothing like Noel's guitar outside of the paint job.
     
  5. Retreads

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    Nice guitar!

    The weirdest part is the sticker that says 'Sheraton II' because it is so much like the original Sheraton (after 1961 when it got the mini-humbuckers), down to the last detail (tailpiece, knobs, hardware, etc are all the vintage style). Paint job looks custom. You can see the masking marks around the F holes.

    Maybe it's a prototype? If not, a modified Sheraton I? Certainly not a Sheraton II...I think the holes for the tuneomatic and full-hums would be evident even if repaired. It's nothing like the Supernova, where the paint was a kind of decal-ish type deal. I'd take out the pickups to see if they're vintage-style or look at the wiring to rule in/out the Sheraton I. Plastic wire covering means modern prototype...the Sheraton I would have been made in Kalamazoo with the Gibson wiring.

    If it's 90s, then you have one of two options: factory prototype or aftermarket. Since the new version would mean they put a Sheraton II neck on a Riviera body (based on the available 90s models). I think the aftermarket would be evident in the reneck, but you'll have to judge for yourself. It would have been easy at the factory to put the two together for prototype. Just don't know why it would have gotten out, especially with that suspicious 'custom' plate.

    In any case, you have a guitar that's entirely closer to its forebear than the thousands who bought the Supernova. Like me, but I have the blue one.
     
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    Wow, thats awesome.
     
  7. lennon08

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    Retreads, thanks for all the amazing info. I am not techy enough to take out the PU's so I did some more looking in the wholes. The wiring that I see is plastic covered.

    I do someday want to take the PU's just to see what they are. They sound great. I love the guitar the only issue just being the mystery behind it.
     
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    I guess if Noel didn't say anything when he signed it I am good to go hahaha!
     
  9. Space Hammer

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    hmm

    nice guitar - but ever notice they painted the Union Jack incorrectly?

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    Being that it might be a prototype, it may have been made by the US Custom Shop.
     
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    That is funny about the Union Jack. I own a record label and the 2 bands we have so far are both from the UK and have never noticed it when they played it. You have a good eye.
     
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    That's a very intriguing screenshot...

    Oh, and the OP's guitar is very cool...save for the screwed up flag graphics! :)
     
  14. jdogric12

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    Could the Custom plate be hiding a "SECOND" or "USED" stamp? I bought a "Casino" that I thought was a kind of prototype. Turned out it's likeliest a factory boo boo that escaped the factory, got completed in an unusual way, and sold on the secondhand market. The telltale sign was dimples on the back of the headstock, revealing the location of such a stamp.

    It was finished in a strange translucent cream finish, has white or cream binding, black P-90 covers, a center block a la 335, a close but non-Epi tailpiece, different knobs, a strange mustache shape on the headstock, and one of the pickups had to be sunk down into the body since the neck angle is so off. That's probably why it came off the line and got "junked."

    Then someone finished it and several pairs of hands later it found its way to me. (I bought it from a seller in Florida who said a friend picked it up for him in Qingdao (location of Epi factory).

    Yours though, who knows? Just relating my experience.
     
  15. Retreads

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    It would make sense for them to reissue the Supernovas since they're going for $800(blue)-$1300(union jack) on eBay these days. And it's not like they didn't make many. There are 2 or 3 that sell every week. And it's nice that they have more original-looking parts, like the frequensator, due to the similarities with the recent Sheraton '62 RI.
     

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