Looking for a delay pedal that has good headroom

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  1. buddastrat

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    To use in a line level, effects loop. I have a TC Flashback and it works pretty well, but has some issues, so I want to find something more reliable.

    Digitech Hardline states it works well in effects loop. I don't want some expensive thing with a ton of presets/parameters like on an Eventide or Boss DD20. Just a simple delay, Analog would be nice. I dig the Carbon Copy but some say it only works at instrument levels. Trying to find out if the Duncan Vapor Trail can work.
     
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    I had a Mesa Express 5.50 Express Plus and used a Memory Lane Jr.
    in the efx loop.
    The Mesa is supposedly line level.
    Worked beautifully.
    Lots of headroom on the pedal.
    I'm back to playing a Fender TRRI and use the MML Jr. through the front of the amp.
    Sounds beautiful that way too.
    The MML Jr. is easy to use,is solid and sounds beautiful.
    Here's the demo that sold me on this pedal.

     
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    looks and sounds very nice! Consider that. I'd really like a small footprint if possible.
     
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    Rack units seem to be better at headroom/dynamics than pedals.
     
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    The TC Nova is the most headroom I have ever heard in a delay pedal. Even on full analog mode at 9v, it is pretty pristine IME.
     
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    Any of the digital delay from Boss or Digitech work great in line loops. MF had digitech DL-8 as stupid deal of day for $60 the other day, being as they just released their new Obscura delay you might see them popping up on clearance/closeout some more in future.

    You'd be hard pressed to go wrong with either of those brands.
     
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    The Korg SDD-3000 pedal have the best headroom of any delay pedal ever made, but hardly a small footprint.. :)
     
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    Boss DD7 is pretty nice.
     
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    AD-900..... 12v so you can slam as much gain into it as you like and it doesn't dirty up.
     
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    The Moog MF104m is fine with line or instrument levels. I'm not positive, but I imagine the Moog mini delay would be fine with line too. Look for delay pedal demos done with synths on youtube and you'll should be able to find some.
     
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    Montavillian @ 18v lots of headroom
    Diamond Memory Lane Jr pretty good headroom
    Carbon Copy not so much headroom
     
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    What amp are you using and how far up is the master volume and channel levels?
     
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    HardWire DL-8 internally raises the voltage (to 18v I guess) to increase headroom. Works a charm and isn't expensive right now.
     
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    Maxon AD9PRO is a nice compact solution; I have mine in the line-level loop of a Mesa Express 5:50. The MLJR is another fine choice.
     
  15. buddastrat

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    I saw MFN clearing them out for $60 last week. I just got the flashback so I passed. Damn...
     
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    What amp and how are the controls set?
     
  17. buddastrat

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    Naylor and no level controls. Just line level. Says "1 volt" on the back. When I looked that up, +4db =1.25 Volts, so it's under that, I guess. Anyhow, it can totally clip Boss stuff.
     
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    which model. Just a gain and master volume or does it have channel volumes as well. It might be easiest to get the Ebtech Line Level shifter if you want to use 9 volt stomp boxes. You'll have a much bigger selection of effects rather than trying to find effects that are really line level.
     
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    Well I do have a loop buffer, but it's a big old rack thing and don't want all that. All I like I want to do is put a little delay pedal on top of the amp. I didn't think it'd be a huge research thing, these days. The TC Electronic stuff works great with it. I'm not too picky about the sound or something. Heck the Boss DD3 was fine, but then I need to buffer.
     
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    I know you said that you didn't want something big with a lot of knobs, but the Eventide TimeFactor has switches to set the level of its input and output, and plenty of headroom. Guitar pedals are mostly not able to handle full line level.
     

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