Looking for a "quiet" cab for my JCM 800!

[Azaril000]

Hi all,

Just recently bought a JCM 800 2204 50w, and I haven only had a chance to try it once so far hooking it to my Fender HRD speaker, which sounded ok, but a bit too impractical.

As I've mentioned before the plan is to use the 800 for bedroom playing. Yes I know thats also impractical, but its I dont do venues, gigs nor am I in a band, but my neighbours are fairly patient (I hope).

I was originally thinking a 4x12 and 2x12 might be a bit TOO loud for my room. 2x12 is tempting but I fear it might be a bit over the top in ovlume management. I thought maybe a 1x12 will probably do it.

Anyways I was recommended what ever cab I buy to get decent speakers, I was recommended the G12-65's for being low efficiency the G12H30's. I know the 65's could probably handle theJCM800 and even maybe a single H30's might also? If I am playing on reasonably quiet volumes?

Which leads me to the question, will I be able to sound "decent" and would it be safe to play through cabs designed for those low wattage heads like the Vox night train, Marshall Haze, orange TT etc? My impression was these cabs were designed for quietness rather than the full blown 150w speaker cabs etc.

I was interested in the Vox V112NT:
http://www.dv247.com/guitars/vox-night-train-v112nt-guitar-amplifier-speaker-cabinet--63770

Or the Marshall MHZ112B:

http://www.dv247.com/guitars/marshall-mhz112b-haze-straight-front-guitar-amp-speaker-cabinet--63789

Or even the highly recommended ORange PPC112:
http://www.dv247.com/guitars/orange-ppc112-guitar-speaker-cabinet--34900

I was thinking the speakers they have are pretty decent and I can always change out the speaker later. Portability isnt really a problem as it;ll be in one place. Size might be.

I would love to buy a Marshall 1936 212 cab, but I fear it and the speakers in it might be a bit too loud for me and practise considering I'll play literally next to it.

What do you guys/girls think? Would those cabs above work? I know it's not really putting my JCM to FULL use but hey gotta be realistic aswell (No I cant sell it to get a smaller amp). Considering I just bought the JCM 800, my budget atm is £150-200 max.

Thanks!

 

[joolzriff]

id get the 1936 and reload it w/ 2 greenbacks (sell the 75's that r in it for the greenies) 2x16ohm for 1x 8ohm load

 

[tennisplayer]

I too am looking for a 112 cab for my Classic 50. Need a speaker that can handle 50 watts with big bass and smooth highs.........any suggestions on that speaker? I'll get the cab from Avatar.

 

[rockon1]

Hi all,

Just recently bought a JCM 800 2204 50w, and I haven only had a chance to try it once so far hooking it to my Fender HRD speaker, which sounded ok, but a bit too impractical.

As I've mentioned before the plan is to use the 800 for bedroom playing. Yes I know thats also impractical, but its I dont do venues, gigs nor am I in a band, but my neighbours are fairly patient (I hope).

I was originally thinking a 4x12 and 2x12 might be a bit TOO loud for my room. 2x12 is tempting but I fear it might be a bit over the top in ovlume management. I thought maybe a 1x12 will probably do it.

Anyways I was recommended what ever cab I buy to get decent speakers, I was recommended the G12-65's for being low efficiency the G12H30's. I know the 65's could probably handle theJCM800 and even maybe a single H30's might also? If I am playing on reasonably quiet volumes?

Which leads me to the question, will I be able to sound "decent" and would it be safe to play through cabs designed for those low wattage heads like the Vox night train, Marshall Haze, orange TT etc? My impression was these cabs were designed for quietness rather than the full blown 150w speaker cabs etc.

I was interested in the Vox V112NT:
http://www.dv247.com/guitars/vox-night-train-v112nt-guitar-amplifier-speaker-cabinet--63770

Or the Marshall MHZ112B:

http://www.dv247.com/guitars/marshall-mhz112b-haze-straight-front-guitar-amp-speaker-cabinet--63789

Or even the highly recommended ORange PPC112:
http://www.dv247.com/guitars/orange-ppc112-guitar-speaker-cabinet--34900

I was thinking the speakers they have are pretty decent and I can always change out the speaker later. Portability isnt really a problem as it;ll be in one place. Size might be.

I would love to buy a Marshall 1936 212 cab, but I fear it and the speakers in it might be a bit too loud for me and practise considering I'll play literally next to it.

What do you guys/girls think? Would those cabs above work? I know it's not really putting my JCM to FULL use but hey gotta be realistic aswell (No I cant sell it to get a smaller amp). Considering I just bought the JCM 800, my budget atm is £150-200 max.

Thanks!

A G12-65 is 97db
A G12H-30 is 100 db.

Either will be loud. A G12-65 would be like reducing the power by 25 watts(1/2) but 25 watts is still loud. A single G12H-30 isnt a good idea behind a 50 watt amp. Yes they are tough 30 watt speakers but 30 watt none the less. Its also a high efficiency speaker(loud).

The Orange cab is rated at 60 watts with a single V30 and almost too close for comfort mated to a 50 watt Marshall. At 100 db sensitivelty it would be loud also.

IMO you want to run a cab of at least 75-80 watts though many say double the wattage of the the amp. Bob

 

[Azaril000]

Well as it stands now it seems my ONLY option is (I cant buy from avatar, Im based in UK): buy a Marshall 1936 2x12 (2 G12T75's cab) for £160 second hand which seems LOUD or a 1x12 Orange PPC with 1x12 Vintage 30 for £180 or the Vox Night Train with a Greenback for £154.

Which to go with?

 

[rockon1]

Well as it stands now it seems my ONLY option is (I cant buy from avatar, Im based in UK): buy a Marshall 1936 2x12 (2 G12T75's cab) for £160 second hand which seems LOUD or a 1x12 Orange PPC with 1x12 Vintage 30 for £180 or the Vox Night Train with a Greenback for £154.

Which to go with?

They will all be 'loud" The 1936 will handle the power if you ever crank it. The orange is marginal as far as power handling but if you dont crank it it shound be ok. The single greanback is definately not a good match power handling wise-unless your never going to bring it above bedroom levels. Bob

 

[Azaril000]

Cheers for the replies so far, keep it coming guys!

I also found a Marshall 1x12 with a single G12T75, theres no pics of it, but its selling for £100

 

[Jef Bardsley]

I think if you're going to have any fun with you new Marshall, you'll need an attenuator.