looking for Black Crowes in a pedal.

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  1. IbanezAFS75

    IbanezAFS75 Member

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    any help? i'm really wanting an overdrive that can nail that Twice As Hard tone. I'm playing a strat into a Metro JTM45 with KT66's. More power to you if you can find one that also does a convincing No Speak No Slave tone.

    any help is appreciated.
     
  2. theatomicjeff

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    Ain't it great? Bump 'cuz I'd like to know myself.
     
  3. DoobieK

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    I have a Guitar Shop magazine that listed their pedals as a Fulltone Fulldrive II and an Ibanez Tube King.
     
  4. radcliff

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    Shouldn't you get a Les Paul?
     
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    I'm thinking Tele for Rich.
     
  6. JRC4558Dude

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    Gonna be tough to nail that tone with a Strat. Rich used either a Les Paul, or his Tele with a humbucker in it. However, the suggestions that you check out a Fulldrive or Tube King are both right on the money (get a Fuzz Face for Marc Ford's tones). Rich also uses a lot of low power amps in the studio, and just cranks them to high heaven for power tube distortion. You might want to skip the pedal, and try running your JTM45 with a power attenuator, as well.

    BTW, Rich's rhythm part in "No Speak No Slave" is played in open "G" (DGDGBD) and capoed at the fourth fret. Wicked riff, wicked song.
     
  7. B_of_H

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    I was going to mention the amp. It sounds like you already have the tools but just need to turn up louder and maybe get a humbucker.
     
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    Just get an atttenuator-its all about the power tube distortion
     
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    A copule different tones happening in that tune, but nothing that you can't from an electric guitar plugged into a tube amplifier.
     
  10. IbanezAFS75

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    thanks guys, i appreciate the help.

    I have an old Ibanez hollowbody with humbuckers, but the feedbacks too much for me.

    i had an FDII and wasnt quite pleased with the results, i'll look into the Tube King.
     
  11. JRC4558Dude

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    CORRECTION-----"No Speak No Slave" is played in open G with a capo at the THIRD, not fourth fret. The tab book for that album says its in some weird Bb tuning and doesn't mention a capo, but its wrong. technically, it is open Bb, but you tune to G and then capo.

    Same deal for "Thorn in my pride". You tune to open G and capo at the second fret.
     
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    i would think a Screwdriver could get the perfect blend of overdrive/fuzz that will get you in the territory.
     
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    +1.
     
  14. BrainDamage

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    Thorn is played with a capo at the fourth fret. I've seen a tab for No Speak No Slave in that Bb tuning, and that's definitely not right. Open G with a capo at the 3rd fret is the way to go.
     
  15. Analog Assassin

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    I got that "Twice as Hard" tone with a strat, humbucker in bridge, into a bsiab set on low drive. I'm not a slide player, but I used a copper pipe that I cut to size.
     
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    Pro Guitarshop's demo of the Durham Zia Drive sounds like Black Crows to me.
     
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    I don't think you'll find the Crowes in a pedal. Try in a bus, plane, bar, or onstage.
     
  18. PedalFreak

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    The amp is a Tweed Fender overdriven. Try the Lovepedal Woodrow. Gets really close :D
     
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    Fulltone 69 with a backed off guitar volume knob.

    TheGrooveking
     
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    ^^^^ +1
    Or the AnalogMan NKT275 with the guitar vol around 8. :)
     

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