Looking for some nice 10's

Stopgo

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Hey all,

Got some Tone Tubby 10's in a Bob Burt cab and they just aren't doing it for me. Breaking up really early with this buzzy distortion . . . pretty dissapointing to be honest . . . guess they're not my cup of tea. But am looking for a new pair of 10's to go with my Fuchs ODS 30 and Connie. Any suggestions?
 

doctord02

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Scumbag has been teasing me with a description of his new pre-Rola 10" clone. Might be worth an email if you're into the vintage Celestion mojo.
 

waylon

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I wouldn't go the vintage Celestion route by your descriptions. I have some and they break up early as well. I'm hoping that the Weber California's that I have ordered will do the trick. We would really have to know the tones that you are after first though. Weber and Eminence offer a few different choices of 10" speakers and from their lines you should be able to find something that should be your cup of tea.
 

Cranknfrank

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Go to the Eminence speaker webpage and under Resources check out the Tonal Guide for Patriot/Redcoat speakers. You really need to define what your needs are and then find the speaker or combination of speakers to reach your goals.

The Redcoat series 10" is called the Ramrod....very good British sounding speaker. The Patriot series has around 4 different speakers to choose from with the Copperheads and Ragin' Cajuns being the most popular. I just put a pair of CH's in my old Vibrolux and I'm very pleased. Tonally well balanced with a very late break-up....just what I was looking for. They also sound better each time I play them...they are breaking in very nicely.

Good luck...
 

Swarty

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I was less than impressed with the Ramrods in a BF Vibrolux Reverb. Was knocked out by the Copper Heads in a reissue Vibroverb. Lots of bottom and very balanced.
 

Stopgo

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I'm needing something versatile that is voiced more on the clean side of the spectrum. I've got a Govenor in my Blackface Deluxe Rev. and really like the tones that I've got coming from that. Nice highend, and a solid lowend as well. I don't want anything sterile though . . . hi-fi, warm, and versatile is what I'm after. . . does this help at all?

PS playing "modern" classic rock . . . think JJ Cale meets Wilco
 

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Originally posted by doctord02
Scumbag has been teasing me with a description of his new pre-Rola 10" clone. Might be worth an email if you're into the vintage Celestion mojo.
This one's a bit different than the other 10" Celestions you've heard. My latest speaker is based on the tone of a 9384 Pre Rola 10" with a huge magnet (much bigger than the 7442, & other old Cele's). Note how far the cover extends away from the frame. I hear reports & tales that these came stock in the 2x12 BluesBreakers (not sure if that's correct), but they deliver a huge tone, almost as big as a 12" speaker.


Weber made a recreation of this for me, and it's in the testing stages right now. It will handle 30 watts RMS, and will provide a big balanced tone. I'll get some clips done later this week after I get through completing my taxes, and seeing how much the IRS wants on Wednesday, so I "should" be able to record some clips on Thursday and post them. I'll post a new thread with the clips at that time. So far, it's been a huge tone for a 10", but better balanced and not "boomy and dull". Great cutting tone, without being an "icepick in the ear".

Ted Weber is a freaking genius...period.
 

Tony Foran

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Originally posted by Scumbag
This one's a bit different than the other 10" Celestions you've heard. My latest speaker is based on the tone of a 9384 Pre Rola 10" with a huge magnet (much bigger than the 7442, & other old Cele's). Note how far the cover extends away from the frame. I hear reports & tales that these came stock in the 2x12 BluesBreakers (not sure if that's correct), but they deliver a huge tone, almost as big as a 12" speaker.


Weber made a recreation of this for me, and it's in the testing stages right now. It will handle 30 watts RMS, and will provide a big balanced tone. I'll get some clips done later this week after I get through completing my taxes, and seeing how much the IRS wants on Wednesday, so I "should" be able to record some clips on Thursday and post them. I'll post a new thread with the clips at that time. So far, it's been a huge tone for a 10", but better balanced and not "boomy and dull". Great cutting tone, without being an "icepick in the ear".

Ted Weber is a freaking genius...period.
I just sold a 4x10 Marshall that had 9384s. Great sounding speaker!
 

PlexiBreath

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Originally posted by Scumbag
This one's a bit different than the other 10" Celestions you've heard. My latest speaker is based on the tone of a 9384 Pre Rola 10" with a huge magnet (much bigger than the 7442, & other old Cele's). Note how far the cover extends away from the frame. I hear reports & tales that these came stock in the 2x12 BluesBreakers (not sure if that's correct), but they deliver a huge tone, almost as big as a 12" speaker.

Weber made a recreation of this for me, and it's in the testing stages right now. It will handle 30 watts RMS, and will provide a big balanced tone. I'll get some clips done later this week after I get through completing my taxes, and seeing how much the IRS wants on Wednesday, so I "should" be able to record some clips on Thursday and post them. I'll post a new thread with the clips at that time. So far, it's been a huge tone for a 10", but better balanced and not "boomy and dull". Great cutting tone, without being an "icepick in the ear".

Ted Weber is a freaking genius...period.
I came on to this thread to say that I really like the Weber P10Q, what he sells now as the 10A125. But this speaker now has my interest, is this something to get through you, or is this something Ted will be offering in his Weber line? Either way is fine with me but I'd like to get one to try.

Back to what I was going to say, the Weber P10Q has worked incredibly well in my 4 x10" combo homebrew with a 50 watt plexi circuit. I'm very impressed with it.
 

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I'll second Plexibreath on the Weber P10Q. I usually like ceramics better, even for tweed type amps. But these Webers are wonderful. Loud, tight bass, sweet top end, more clean and less compression than I expected (in my new-to-me Clark Tyger. ) No mush at all.

Maybe the ceramic version would work better for harder stuff. I'm usually playing blues. Never heard the ceramic, but I bet it's just as good in its own way.
 

Scumback Speakers

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PlexiBreath...this is another Scumbag exclusive speaker... I'm pretty sure the price will be fairly reasonable (under $100 each if my cost estimation is right) plus the new Scumback speaker label will be installed as well. I just placed an order for 200 labels, too.

Here's the label..



I'll get clips and speaker pics up later in the week, and start a new thread when I do. I've got tax crap to finish off for 2004 so that's going to dominate my time for the next couple of days, but feel free to email me if you have any other specific questions.
 

Moods

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I have a pair of Matchless/Celestion G10L's that don't have a home. They came in a Lightning I had a couple years ago that I converted to a 1X12. They were in there for about 3 months. Perfectly broken in. Mint condition. One of the best sounding rawk 10's out there IMO. Celestion doesn't make this speaker anymore.

$120 if interested.

Good luck!

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SteveE9C6

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I'm trying to decide the same thing. I've got a 96 Fender CVR with the stock blue frame Eminence Alnico 10s. I'm thinking really seriously about the weber california series... most likely the ceramic. I may try one ceramic and one alnico combination. Heck, I don't know. I want crystal spanky clean... tele twang.
 

PlexiBreath

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Originally posted by mad dog
I'll second Plexibreath on the Weber P10Q. I usually like ceramics better, even for tweed type amps. But these Webers are wonderful. Loud, tight bass, sweet top end, more clean and less compression than I expected (in my new-to-me Clark Tyger. ) No mush at all.
Yeah, I'm surprised considering the P10Q is alnico, I have two P10Q Webers in a 4 x 10 combo with two of the ten inch version of the Celestion Vintage 30, it turns out the P10Qs are the punchier and tighter speaker. When they do compress, it's not mushy at all, more like an LA2A was somewhere in the signal chain. BTW, they also look classier. Normally I'm a fan of british speakers, but these P10Qs give bees an extra set of knees.
 

Roe

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Southbay Ampworks said:
This one's a bit different than the other 10" Celestions you've heard. My latest speaker is based on the tone of a 9384 Pre Rola 10" with a huge magnet (much bigger than the 7442, & other old Cele's). ...Weber made a recreation of this for me, and it's in the testing stages right now. It will handle 30 watts RMS, and will provide a big balanced tone. ....
is it based on the early 15w speaker or the latter 20w speaker?
 

outtahear

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Stopgo said:
Hey all,

Got some Tone Tubby 10's in a Bob Burt cab and they just aren't doing it for me. Breaking up really early with this buzzy distortion . . . pretty dissapointing to be honest . . . guess they're not my cup of tea. But am looking for a new pair of 10's to go with my Fuchs ODS 30 and Connie. Any suggestions?
Must be one HUGE cab! (anyone else spot the Tap/Stonehenge moment?.....)
 
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tedjac

Stopgo...

If you want to get a slightly different sound than Celestion-type speakers offer, I had a Eminence Delta Demon 10" in a Mesa Boogie Subway Rocket and it was truly amazing sounding. Big, gutsy and articulate are words that come to mind. Nice, full clean sound when wantd, but would really get a creamy overdrive when put in that mode. I was very happy with it. Sold the amp a couple months ago... but the speaker was a real winner in my book.

I'm not a big fan of the Celestion grit, so finding this speaker was a real pleasure. I'd think of it as a slightly dark EV tone... just FYI.
 

Killa-B

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Used Kendrick Blackframe 10's are a good value, and a really good Jensen copy if that's to your liking.
 




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