Looper with drum beats

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  1. JasonB5232

    JasonB5232 Member

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    Wondering if anyone has a looper with drum beats or using a looper (with Midi) and a drum machine. I have a Ditto looper, but would love to have sync'ed drums. Boss RC series seems like it would be a fit, but wanted to see if anyone else had recommendations.
     
  2. songtalk

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    The only way to really do this is a pigtronix Infinity Looper (or ditto x4) a midi cable and a really nice drum machine. Otherwise you're selling yourself short every time.
     
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    Digitech Trio+ generates Drum and Bass lines based on the chord progression and rhythm you enter into it, and it also has a looper built in.

    BOSS RC-3 has 9 drum sounds programmed in but I only really use 3 of them. Not pro level drum beats but nice for keeping time (also has a half-step beat).

    I'm willing to bet the Pigtronix Looper is really good. I own a Pigtronix pedal and it's amazing.
     
  4. Nevets

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    The Digitech Jamman is good for this. It has crappy rhythms built in but it has a quantize feature, so easy to run a drum machine into it and keep your loops in time.

    The Zoom G1on works as a basic cheap looper with some good drum beats that sync to the looper.
     
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    My rig includes an Alesis SR18 with midi clock out to a Boomerang III. I have not used this to gig with the drum machine in the main mix, but I have used it along with a boss FS-6 footswitch to allow me to tap the tempo, start the beat (which goes to the monitors as a click), and sync my loops to our drummer on-the-fly. Works great for this. We used to try looping without the click and sometimes my loops just get lost in the mix and we drift off the beat. With the click the drummer has something to easily latch onto and it keeps my looper in time with him.

    I am still working on this in practice, but I am working on using the drum machine in the mains for solo/duo stuff, since I can not only do the start/stop/tap but also add fills using the footwitch, all while staying synced to my loops. My biggest hurdle right now (which is more a matter of spending the time on it) is just getting a bunch of different rhythms either programmed or selected from stock to match with my existing setlist.
     
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    +1 for the Trio+
    Drums, bass, looper with option to program 5 parts of the beat (for whatever the song requires - intro, verse, chorus, bridge, etc.)
     
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    Yes. Exactly. Didn't know the rang could midi sync. That's awesome.
     
  8. JasonB5232

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    I keep hearing good things about the Infinity. The Ditto x4 I'd read that it didn't have Midi sync. I don't read the dates on threads often enough so I could be way off there.

    I keep looking at this one, because it has basically what I'm looking for. A friend suggested he liked the RC-2 better. Go figure.

    I'll take a look at both of these.

    I'd love to go this route, but outside of my budget at this point. I'll keep dreaming.
     
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    To me there's nothing worse sounding than polluting my guitar amps limited range speaker with bunch of bass drum and cymbals that are well out of range of what that speaker was designed to handle. It's makes both your guitar and drums sound like crap. If your gonna use a drum machine give it its own sound system, if not a pa feed then at least a 2.1 home computer speaker system. Anything other than trying to make that single guitar speaker cone move in 3 directions at once. All that gets you is mud.
     
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    ableton live if you you are inclined to play with a laptop
     
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    I have an RC-3. It's ok, but not great. I wouldn't recommend it. Save your money for something better.
     
  12. Tom Von Kramm

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    Just FYI the JamMan SoloXT has drum patterns and samples by Pat Mastelotto.
     
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    The drummer from Mr. Mister? I take it all back!!!! :)
     
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    ive got an rc3 I never use. its awkward to use and the drum patterns are terrible. they all remind me of bad 90s videogame music. like a Japanese cartoon version of each genre. or maybe what rock music sounds like to someone that heard a rock n roll song 10 yrs ago and is trying to recreate it from memory using very bad sounding technology. I love boss, too. that pedal just sucks.
     
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    Broken Wings baby!
     
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    I have an rc-300, it has quite a few decent beats. More than the rc-30. Trio+ would be what I would get if buying now.
     
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    Definitely Trio+. I have one and it's a real game-changer for the solo hobbyist like me. You can dial out the bass if all you want is drums. So versatile, a real no-brainer purchase.
     
  18. chrismellotron

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    BOSS Loop Station. Never use the drums.
     
  19. Rai

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    Yup I hear yah. True.

    The Trio+ has the option to output the drum beats to another amp/PA. My guitar sound goes to the amp and the drum beats go to my full range keyboard amp.
     
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    I certainly agree with you, which is why the Trio is so good. It has two separate outputs, one for the guitar's amp and one for a mixer. I just plug the mixer jack straight into a bass amp. The guitar signal goes out through the amp connection, and the drum and bass lines go out into the bass amp. Both the drums and bass sound great on it.

    edit: To clarify, it separates both signals. Should have said that originally.
     
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