Looping for Guitarists: An Open Letter to FX Manufacturers

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  1. splatt

    splatt david torn / splattercell Gold Supporting Member

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    @Crazyquilt, are the looping & time/speed controls either cv or exp or midi accessible?
    in an case, i’ll go visit them at NAMM, as i will Eventide.
     
  2. urQuill

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    Hey, if you and/or @Crazyquilt or anyone finds answers to these exact questions and other details about the Volante’s looping, please let us, or others with limited access ... or me, let me know! please and thanks!
     
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    Yes please
     
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    Strymon Response about the Max Delay time options:

    'Max recording time for the SOS looper is dependent on the SPEED switch:
    half - 64 seconds, normal - 32 seconds, double - 16 seconds.
    For delay time, it is:
    half - 4 seconds, normal - 2 seconds, and double - 1 second.'
     
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  5. Flouncingfleasbag

    Flouncingfleasbag Supporting Member

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    Which loopers have midi sync without drift?

    I'm sure this has been discussed here, so apologies if this is redundant, but it might be helpful to have a list going (?)

    ( I understand the Jamman jam sync thing, but for this instance I'd like to keep it to loopers that can be slaved/synced via midi for universal access vs. a single proprietary system)
     
  6. Seance

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    This doesn't clear up that question, but shows the Volante with the Strymon controller (sold separately).
     
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  7. theRagman

    theRagman Gold Supporting Member

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    Echoplex Digital Pro works great for this.
     
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  8. Flouncingfleasbag

    Flouncingfleasbag Supporting Member

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    Thanks! Just looked into, seems to have excellent functionality and seems to have a user friendly design. I read that it does not allow for layering? Is that true?
     
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  9. superdave2001

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    The two I have personal experience with are:
    • Pigtronix Infinity Looper
    • EHX 95000
    I had the 95000 once, sold it for the Infinity (due to size), and now I'm back with the 95000. Love it.
     
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  10. Crazyquilt

    Crazyquilt Guitar Dad Silver Supporting Member

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    I am such a MIDI naif, I hadn't even looked. If I do find out, will report back.
     
  11. theRagman

    theRagman Gold Supporting Member

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    Layering like overdubbing? It’s great at that. Is there something else you mean by “layering”?
     
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    Cool. I too am interested in what the EXP input can be be assigned to, as well as the MIDI stuff.
     
  13. Flouncingfleasbag

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    No, that's what I meant. Thanks. More proof you cant trust everything you read, glad I asked.
     
  14. Flouncingfleasbag

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    Thanks, I should start compiling a list in another thread (?).
    The 95000 is one I have been very interested in myself.

    Does anyone have first hand experience with the Boomerang III? I've read it can have issues with drifting when midi synced.
     
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    Whoever said that probably never even used one. Clueless. EDP does just about everything other loopers do and much more. So sad that it hasn't been brought into the present. It's not a multi-track, or stereo looper, but as mono loopers go, it's a pinnacle of amazeballs technology.
     
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    The website seems to imply the control is minimal:

    “Change the speed of your loop and simultaneously change the pitch in octave increments.”

    Huge missed opportunity if true, AFAIC.
     
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  17. theRagman

    theRagman Gold Supporting Member

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    It really, really is. I’m only smart/creative enough to use about 5% of its functionality, but just that goes a long, long way.
     
  18. Flouncingfleasbag

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    I stumbled on to a new technique/solution for using a stand alone looper in a band setting this week. I'm certain this is something many other people have already been doing, but it was a revelation for me.

    In our band we have myself on guitar using loopers, a synth player who is also using drum machines and loopers and our drummer who uses electronic drum pads and loopers along with an acoustic set ( and synths). As many of you know, when trying to loop to a mix of pre-existing loops and live drums, there's a tiny margin of error to get it locked in perfectly. While my drummer has excellent timing ( we are all actually decent this way) we have some hard swinging going on, as well as intentional tempo shifts. Anyway, to get to the point...

    I ended up making up a new, to me, trick. If I trigger the looper on and catch a good lick, I have begun to let it continue to wrap around and overdub. In this way, as the tempo/ feel morphs, my previous layers of loops, that would have been drifting are now subtle "fattening" layers, or funky little syncopated layers. As the loop continues to layer, and as I keep building the new layers of the lick, and variations/ harmonies, I end up with an extremely pleasing wall of noise/ funky filler. Eventually, it melds into a reverb wash, underneath, but as I add new parts, I can really play with the swing and staggering.While this is not a style I will constantly employ, it's awesome if used sparingly for a couple of numbers, or for parts of songs. It's, of course great to cycle thru different pedals and create different flavors in the murk- carving out space with filters and EQ's, fuzz; whatever. Also, once the wall of noise layers are built, I can stop and start them; and make break( beat)s out of them.

    Not sure if I did a good job of explaining that. It's pretty awesome.
     
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  19. Flouncingfleasbag

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    That's awesome!
    I'm so thankful for this community and all the stuff I've learned about, and continue to learn about.
     
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  20. Crazyquilt

    Crazyquilt Guitar Dad Silver Supporting Member

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    The Boomerang III is my personal looper of choice -- but as noted above, my MIDI knowledge is minimal. It seems to sync fine with my Roland TR-8, but that's about the best I can say. Anything else though? Ask away.
     

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