Lots of innovative strat inspired models these days.

sidk47

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I have saved up 1500$ and want to blow it on a strat or les paul type guitar. I see that the 1500$ market is full of great deals and lots of innovative strat type guitars exist like:

1. Musicman cutlass
2. Musicman stingray
3. John Page ashburn classic
4. Ibanez prestige talman

And there may be others which I don't know of. Which do you think is best for blues rock country jazz metal? What are the merits and demerits of each guitar listed above? Currently I am favoring the stingray.

What are your thoughts on this?
 

John C

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I wouldn't call them "innovative", but I would call them interesting, and also say that it's always good to expand what is available in that $1,000 to $1,500 price range. My take on those 4:

1. EBMM Cutlass - interesting in that they have taken their Silent Circuit (which only worked in positions 1-3-5 on SSS EBMMs, and only for position 5 on the HSS Silhouette Special) and applied it across all settings, and built in a unity gain circuit. Nothing particularly new, but nice that this is available in a $1,500 guitar instead of a $2,500 guitar.

2. EBMM StingRay - not seeing much there; they took an old Leo model that had over-the-top active electronics (Leo - what were you really thinking in 1975/76?) and stripped it down to a bare-bones HH Strat.

3. John Page Ashburn Classic - nice shape - just stratty enough. Reverse pickup - the way Page likes the tone, and it's Hendrix-y.

4. Ibanez Talman series - at least it's not another Strat or Tele shape, just Strat or Tele electronics. The only one of the 4 that I've played, and they are very well done.

There is very little that is truly new under the sun, but all of these guitars are garnering good reviews and are going to be solid players against the typical American Standard and American Special Fenders.
 

Deven Patel

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I wouldn't call them "innovative", but I would call them interesting, and also say that it's always good to expand what is available in that $1,000 to $1,500 price range. My take on those 4:

1. EBMM Cutlass - interesting in that they have taken their Silent Circuit (which only worked in positions 1-3-5 on SSS EBMMs, and only for position 5 on the HSS Silhouette Special) and applied it across all settings, and built in a unity gain circuit. Nothing particularly new, but nice that this is available in a $1,500 guitar instead of a $2,500 guitar.

2. EBMM StingRay - not seeing much there; they took an old Leo model that had over-the-top active electronics (Leo - what were you really thinking in 1975/76?) and stripped it down to a bare-bones HH Strat.

3. John Page Ashburn Classic - nice shape - just stratty enough. Reverse pickup - the way Page likes the tone, and it's Hendrix-y.

4. Ibanez Talman series - at least it's not another Strat or Tele shape, just Strat or Tele electronics. The only one of the 4 that I've played, and they are very well done.

There is very little that is truly new under the sun, but all of these guitars are garnering good reviews and are going to be solid players against the typical American Standard and American Special Fenders.
the john page classic uses thread screws to bolt the neck which is a very nice feature.
 

Bikedude

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Doesn't the John Page Strat have a 12in. Radius? That's pretty cool on a Strat.
 

sidk47

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Hi guys, the music man models previously mentioned have something called a compensated nut. Can I know what that is and what it does?
 

Defendant

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Hi guys, the music man models previously mentioned have something called a compensated nut. Can I know what that is and what it does?
A compensated nut is a nut that has each slot for each string in a different position, much like the saddles on your bridge. The idea is that the guitar will intonate better, especially in the lower end of the neck. There are a few different approaches to this. Generally they help a bit.
 

Johnny Alien

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Nope. It is just supposed to help make it intonate a little more precisely. It tunes normally.
 

sidk47

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Ok Johnny thanks. I still can't make up my mind, I wish I could buy all the guitars mentioned above, but I have only enough money for one.
 


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