main diffs from 490/498s to BB 1/3s

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  1. tedm

    tedm Gold Supporting Member

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    I've got a set of Burstbucker 1/3s bought from a fellow member, and they've been sitting for a month or so. I'm actually pretty happy with the tones from my stock 490/498 pickups.

    What kinds of tonal changes can I expect by dropping these in my LP special? subtle, huge? gain changes?

    Thanks!
     
  2. GCDEF

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    Better authentic growl. Not as harsh.
     
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    I read the H/C stuff, not much useful info. there.

    I think I want better authentic growl, but I don't consider my current stock ones harsh, especially the neck when played on clean amp settings. do you mean the BB's break up less or are cleaner than the 490/498s?


     
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    I play with all the knobs up all the time, so vol, and tones are always on full CW.

     
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    They're not really harsh as much as the BBs are smooth. To me, the 490/498s have a more modern voicing, while the BBs have more of that classic Les Paul tone that you'd hear 30 years ago.
     
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    I think both sets are too high output for my tastes, but if I had to pick one, I'd go with BB 1&3. I really do think the 490R/498T set is too hot and harsh. I had them in a LP Standard for years, but later put in a Duncan JB (another hot pickup) and a '59 and it was night and day. To me, the 490/498 only sounded acceptable with high gain.

    I have the BBs in my Oxblood right now and they are OK, but I'd like something with less output. Definitely a smoother than the 490/498. Not horrible pickups though.
     
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    Thanks Phil and GCDEF, I think I'll just give it a try the next time the soldering iron is warmed up, either that, or find some LP's around with I's and III's instead of the newer V's.
     
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    Well, the BBs aren't wax-potted so you can expect squeal at highish gain...

    BTW, not all 490r/498t sets are the same, as is true with ALL Gibson pups, they vary a lot! :jo


    I've had 490r/498t sets that were nasally, thin and scooped and other sets that were thick in the mids and sounded HUGE!

    If you've got a good set, which is kinda rare, I wouldn't be surprised if you went back to them.

    That's what I did when I tried a BB Pro set in my LP Custom ;)

    The original 490r/498t set blew away ALL contenders, which included:

    1. SD PGn/JB

    2. SD 59/Custom

    3. Dimarzio PAF Pro set

    4. Burstbucker Pros

    What a waste of time that experiment was!

    Of course it did cause me to upgrade the pots & caps, but this original Gibson pup set is magical! :p
     
  9. tedm

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    I just played my LP and I like the 490/498 a lot. The 498 does have a little harshness nasal tone to it, but I can't imagine that guitar without that special bite it gives, and then when selecting the neck, it's a tad boomier than I'd like at times, and less cut through, but I use it for jazz and sometimes fusion.

    I think I have a "good" set of 490s. Let me know if anyone wants to hear clips of the pickups, I can make mp3s through a tweed deluxe set on "2" to sm57.

     
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    And where/how would the Classic 57 series fall into this mix?!?
     

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