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Marshall 1936 cab

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs' started by sliberty, Jan 13, 2008.

  1. Jan 13, 2008 #1
    sliberty

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    Not too long ago, I bought a Marshall 1936 2x12 from the Jcm900 series. It's all MDF and loaded with the stock G12T-75 speakers.

    To my ear, it seems rather mid scooped sounding. I wonder if this is caused by the cab itself, or the 75 watters. I was considering getting some Green Berets or maybe real Greenbacks or maybe even the 65's, but would like to hear from others if this will solve the scooped tone before I spend the money. I am mainly a classic rocker - not looking for hevy metal tones.

    Any and all opinions are welcome here.
     
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    The 1936 has a reputation for being very beamy and directional. The MDF certianly isnt helping - but *anything* other than a 75 will be a big improvement if you want classic rock tones. I personally prefer Scumback 55hz speakers and/or G12H-30's.
     
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    blackba

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    What amp are you using with this cab?

    I would say you can't go wrong with G12-65's or G12H30's for this cab, but it depends on the amp, 2 G12H30's won't hold up with a 100Watt amp.

    I put 2 Classic Lead 80's in my 1936 copy cab, they sound great, but probably not the 1st choice for what you are looking for....
     
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    sliberty

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    I use a few different amps actually, which is why I didn't mention them in the first posting.

    Here are the main culprets:

    JTM45
    Z-28
    Spitfire
     
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    dewman

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    take the back off, cu some new panels and make it open back and it will sound 100% better. Better yet- get a mojo or avatar vintage 2x12....
     
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    We make a version of this cab in birch. Sounds great with greenbacks and 65's in closed back or with tone tubbies or jenson neo's in a semi open back(oval) configuration. I'd try changing speakers or the back panel before giving up on the cab.

    DonR
     
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    sliberty

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    Thanks Don. Seems the consensus is that the 75's are a big part of my problem with the scooped tone. So I think your advise is the way I will go. Different speakers will be my first try.

    I have read here that some like the combination of a 75 with a V30 to help fill out the mids. That would be more cost effective for me since I would only have to buy one speaker, but I wonder if leaving the other 75 in place is my best choice. Have you tried that combination?
     
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    Have not tried that one-honestly, the only way I like 75's is at full tilt with a marshall or trainwreck flavored amp. the 65's are more versitle(the way I would go with it), and the tone tubbies are great , but expensive. The Neo's are completely transparent-you better like the amp-because that is all you hear.

    DonR
     
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    ScottR

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    Stick 1 v30 in with the 75, if it gets better then buy another if it's still too scooped
     
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    griley

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    The mdf 1936 is a horrible cab IMO, don't bother changing the speakers it will still sound bad. I would sell the cab and find a jcm 800 1936, it's all ply and much better. I've got one with a v30/mc90 mix that sounds great.

    George.
     
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