Marshall Advice Needed ...

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  1. Alchemist XP

    Alchemist XP Supporting Member

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    I've owned a lot of amps over the last 20 years but never a Marshall. I've got an itch to get a Marshall now and would love some advice on which model to get. Having seen many times where threads like this go, I'd like to give it some boundaries, if that's OK.
    • 50 Watts Max ... not less than 20 watts, ideally a head but a combo is possible
    • Effects loop essential
    • EL-34's preferred ... definitely NOT EL-84's
    • Not looking for a Marshall-like brand like Friedman, Metroplex or any others. I'm talking Marshall only
    • Ideally a model that's currently available new or within 10 years used ... Don't want to hunt down a 20 year old amp with all the risks that entails
    • Want something that sounds great out of the box ... no mods needed
    • Not looking for a heavy metal sound ... I've got a Boogie to cover that terriroty
    • Looking for sounds from AC/DC, early VH, Zep, Jeff Beck
    • Hopefully has a decent clean sound, but more interested in classic 70's overdrive
    • Two channel preferred but not absolutely critical.
    • Master Volume a must ... Don't need a "bedroom" amp, but want it to sound good at reasonable, non ear shattering volumes
    • I'm not ultra picky about nailing the ultra vintage whatever EXACTLY ... Just looking for that current edition Marshall that most closely nails THAT classic Marshall Sound, but not the higher gain metal tones.
    Any advice would be really appreciated!!!
     
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  2. TwangAddict

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    I would say JTM45 RI, but gotta crank it up a little to get the sweet gains.. . Give it a try, anyways. I love mine, its THE Marshall for me
     
  3. Strat_lover

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    Given your requirements, I would suggest a Vintage Modern or DSL series amp.

    The Vintage Modern is a "two channel" amp, but not really useful in the traditional clean/gain channel switching setup. It's kind of a pick a channel and leave it type amp, as the channels share controls and there is quite a big volume jump going to the higher gain channel. But, both channels sound good. It is KT66 driven, and is all about 60's through the 80's rock tones, and can be dialed up for a great clean sound.

    The DSL I'm not as big a fan of tonally, the second distortion channel is not that great. But, the cleans are decent and there is a "crunch" mode on the first channel that does the 70's thing fairly well. Bonamassa has done a few tours with these amps on said crunch channel, if that's any inclination to the type of sound they're capable of.

    I don't have any first hand experience with the reissue, only played originals, but for the JCM800 reissue Marshall added an FX loop (2203X is the model #). If it's anything like an original, it should work just fine.

    These amps seem to tick most of your boxes. As someone who seems to aim for similar tones, I'm a Vintage Modern owner, and can definitely recommend that amp. If you'd be open to other brands. I think you would find many more options that would work better for you (Metropolous Metro/Superplex immediately comes to mind)
     
  4. critter74

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    I was in the same boat somewhat a couple of years ago.

    I would go Ceriatone 2204 w/PPIMV and a loop with onboard buffer. It hits all of your marks.

    I have mine and love it. I got that and a 1957 '68 Super Lead w/Super Bass mods at the same time. The 2204 gets more of my day to day play.
     
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    Find an old JCM800 or JMP.
     
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    Seems like the JCM800 reissue, DSL or JVM fit your description. For me I’d go with the JCM800 reissue but it’s probably the least flexible volume wise of those three.
     
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    But a $45 SD-1 in front of that 800 gives you plenty of flexibility.
     
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  8. Alchemist XP

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    Does the JCM800 only come in a 100 watt format?
     
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    Marshall 20W Jubilee Reissue.
     
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  10. Mattbedrock

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    I have 5 different Marshall (or clones thereof) - JTM45, 1986 50w Bass, JCM800 2204, JCM900 Dual Reverb and a 2061 Lead and Bass. Based on your desires, I'd recommend to JCM800; either a 2203 or 2204. My 2204 has a loop as well. Close second would be a JTM45 with a PPIMV. Of course, my choices are dated.
     
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    DSL 40c with Creamback. The unbroken in stock 70/80 will make you hit it with a baseball bat.
     
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    I wouldn’t discount the JVM205H either. I have the 410H and I find it very versatile, decent master volume, and very quiet. A lot of people feel it’s noisy, but I only find that true if you are cranking the gain knob beyond noon. Frankly, noon is the sweet spot for all channels and modes.
     
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    Do you want combo or head?

    JCM 900's or JCM800's Best bang for your buck for that classic sound. Ive used Marshalls for over 30 years.

    I'm using for live gigs lately a jcm900 2x12 the dual channel dual reverb, 6L6 tube version, yes it has effects loop, I got it CHEAP!!!.... And I love it!
     
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    check out a mini silver jubilee
     
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    There are 50 watt models as well, such as the 2204.
     
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    Get you a DSL50 and run it on the green channel with crunch on.

    Rawk.
     
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    i'm liking a clone I have of the 2061x with power scaling
     
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    Those amps desperately need noise gate pedals. Marshall improved them with the satriani model.
     
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    I would say used dsl50, Jvm 205, or jubilee. Jcm800s are hard to find with an effects loop included unless you go with a modded one or a new reissue but those are 100 watts.
     
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    The new Mini Silver Jubilee is what you’re looking for. It’s a current production amp.

    https://marshallamps.com/products/amplifiers/mini-jubilee-series/2525h-mini-jubilee/
     
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