Marshall crunch on a budget

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  1. xStonr

    xStonr Member

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    I'm thinking about getting an amp that would give me that classic Marshall crunch. Problem is that I'm on a tight budget. Give me your suggestions.
     
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    How tight is the budget? Does it have to be tube or will you also consider solid state amps? Do you need the amp for gigs or is just for recording or the bedroom?
     
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    Me too. And, I have been looking at some of the head kits available. It looks like for around $500 you can get several varieties of 18 watt Marshal replicas from Ceriatone or Weber. I am looking for a winter project.
     
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    $500 tops. Tube would be preferable. It would be used in the house.

    Which one?
     
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    Maybe a Marshall Valvestate?
     
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    old bassman head, and turn it up. I saw one in a shop for $350.
     
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    Traynor YBA-1. And if you decide you don't want to keep it, you won't lose a cent.
     
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    Isn't that what those Blackheart amps are all about? The clips sounded great.
     
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    Ahhhh... the eternal question.... killer Marshall sound for home use and for cheap.....sorry to sound sarchastic but it just won't happen. Even guys with real marshalls can't find that tone at in the home volumes.


    There are indeed many amps that will sound close to that sound but most still aren't practical for home use. I think a good analogy would be a car. A guy wants a car that goes from 0 to 310 mph in 3.9 seconds. Answer... a drag car, but they don't handle very well going 55!!
     
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    A Porsche handles fine at 20.
     
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    And your suggestion is.........?

    I'm honestly not tryin to be crappy here.... but when I think of classic Marshall crunch, it doesn't happen until volumes are usually much too loud for home use. Lots of great alternatives but nothing will sound like a cranked up Marshall or similar. Even the great amps that have been suggested are too much for home use, unless you can play LOUD!
     
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    Not trying to be anything but a dick. Don't mind me :)
     
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    Not to go off on a tangent here.... but exactly what is that "Marshall Crunch" everyone talks about? Plexi crunch? JCM 800 crunch? JCM 900 crunch? JCM 2000 DSL crunch? JCM 2000 TSL crunch? JVM crunch?
     
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    The classic Marshall 18 watt circuit, is not particularly high gain. The two inputs are your choice of either running through one side of a dual triod, or both sides in parallel. It has less gain than the typical cascaded preamp tube. Some guys do a cascade mod of various sorts to get some more gain.

    These things are tone monsters, and about the most touchy amp you will ever play, but they are simply NOT high gain. (think late-60's overdrive, not Mesa overdrive) Just so you know.

    Andre
     
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    I fully agree.
     

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