Marshall Crunch -- what do you mean exactly?

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  1. Julia343

    Julia343 Member

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    This came up in the thread Marshall Crunch on a budget. But still I keep seeing the words Marshall Crunch in "has that Marshall Crunch" and others. So you buy said item and get it home only to find out that it didn't have that "Marshall Crunch" you were looking for.

    Sometimes you've heard that crunch on a CD and by default due to the genre figured it's gotta be a Marshall, only to find out it was a 5150. So you can see where this leaves a girl confused. It was mentioned that this would be a good topic for a thread.

    So....

    exactly what is that "Marshall Crunch" everyone talks about? Plexi crunch? JCM 800 crunch? JCM 900 crunch? JCM 2000 DSL crunch? JCM 2000 TSL crunch? JVM crunch?


    Let's discuss....
     
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    "Blizzard of nails". "The sound of ground glass". Lots of upper mid-harmonic content with distortion. For me, it is best represented in the single channel designs from late 60s through about 1974 (where it reached its most savage aluminum panel tone).

    Love them for many things.

    DS
     
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    great question.

    some folks like the evh sound. it is very cool.

    early black sabbath? mmmm hmmmm.

    give me angus and malcolm every time though.

    you can hook me with priest and maiden too. . .

    but angus . . . . especially the early stuff with bon scott. . .

    balls to the wall. . . .
     
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    Hot rodded 800 or one with a boost in front. Thats classic Marshall crunch to me. Doesnt mean it cant be approximated with a slew of other amps though. Bob
     
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    Good question. For me, Marshall crunch is usually of the plexi variety, old Priest, Page, Early Clapton etc.. lots of low/mid grunt with some greenback breakup for some sparkle on top. But it's tough to know the difference between your favorite recorded Marshall tone and the tone from the amp standing right in front of it. I dig a Plexi for recording but prefer a JCM 800 for live stuff because usually, much less gain is needed in a recording. Another great example (for me) of some great Marshall crunch is the Scorpions.

    But I totally get your point. Some of my favorite tones are from Aerosmiths early albums. I always thought it was the classic LP+Plexi combo working. Years later I found that they may have used a modded Musicman amp so I guess you never really know for sure. I've done some recordings with a Fender Musicmaster bass amp and i'll bet many would say is a Marshall.
     
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    Here are some examples:

    Unchained
    Runnin' with the Devil
    Drop Dead Legs
    Tush
    Vincent Price Blues
    I Don't Know
    No Bone Movies
    Mista Bone
    Rock You Like a Hurricane
    Back In Black
    Highway To Hell
    Long Way to the Top If You Want to Rock and Roll
    Welcome to the Jungle
    Lay it Down
    Allright Now
    Hot Blooded
    Roll with the Changes

    You get the idea......
     
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    Yes, according to early interviews Brad & Joe used modded MusicMans.
     
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    Agreed on the Early AC/DC. Malcolm's Gretsch on the opening riff of "Long Way to the Top" pretty much defines "Marshall Crunch" to me.
     
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    Marshall makes so many different sounds. But mostly all of them have crunch.

    It would help to decide what kind of sound you are going for?

    Classic rock? Early Metal? Classic Metal? Hair Metal? All of those sounds can be had from various Marshalls + or - a boost of some sort.

    When I think of Marshall crunch I think of a percussive rhythm tone. Early Malcolm Young comes to mind.

    dk
     
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    Highway to Hell


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    a 50 plexi style circuit with a little extra gain.
     
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    Paul Rodgers voice = crunch (of another kind)!
     
  19. Julia343

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    Yeah, I'm seeing as wide a definition as you can get. I guess what we really need to get more specific about it when we talk about it. I think each of us has in their heads a definition of "classic" Marshall crunch. I think "classic" depends upon when you really started listening. Up until the very late 70s I was totally into classical music. So for me "classic Marshall Crunch is the rhythm sounds of the 1980s. Get that and add a tubescreamer or other boost for leads.

    Brian Johnson era AC/DC
    Accept
    Dokken
    Scorpions
    Aerosmith
    Def Leppard

    Later add....

    Allison Robertson of The Donnas (JCM 2000) -- and they've got cowbell.
    Tom Morello -- JCM 800 2204

    What bands used a JCM 900?

    The JVM will be heard on the next In Flames album.
     
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    Who makes it?

     

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