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Marshall style with master volume

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs' started by Phil M, Sep 30, 2006.

  1. Phil M

    Phil M Member

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    Yes, I did a search and got some interesting topics.

    Anyway, just taking roll call to see what's out there these days in EL34 40-50 watt heads with a master volume that can do vintage clean-ish breakup to hot-rodded Marshall. 1 or 2 channels. Footswitchable boost and reverb not necessary.

    I have a Rivera K-55 that I've used for years which is nice, but what else is out there(?) I'm gonna go (attemp to) finish my patio project. See y'all in a few hours.
     
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    If you want the marshall sound get a marshall maybe a 50 watter reissue or older jmp and install a post phase master volume, ( parts are like $10)
    Or look into guys that mod marshalls ( mine was done by mark cameron and is now a 3 channel marshall) also splawn, David Bray...etc
    You could also look into dabeck amps

     
  3. Fireball XL5

    Fireball XL5 Supporting Member

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    Depends upon what your definition of a "hot-rodded Marshall" is...

    but for a KILLER "Classic Marshall" styled amp with a great master volume you'd be hard pressed to find anything better than a Roccaforte Custom 30 or 40 IMHO. :dude
     
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    I have a TopHat Emplexador 50 watt head. Extremely versatile and great Master Volume. Kicks out anything from JTM45 to JCM800! Marshalls are awesome, but you don't get the versatility.
     
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    They running 60 or 80 wattas I think..


    :jo

     
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    check out an Aiken Intruder, the new ones are 50 watts (mine is 2x EL34s for 30 w). Absolutely one of the better master volumes out there, 2 channels.
     
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    My 87x that was modded by David Bray (with master volume added) is a little beast even at bedroom volumes. Cleans are amazing too. He turned this into one versatile amp. Check him out here: davidbrayamps.com.
     
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    Emplexador. Exactly what you described. also, /13 LDW. I own both.
     
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    Again, Soldano Decatone!

    It's a 3 channel amp..

    Ch1-Fender Bassman
    Ch2-Hot Rodded Marshall
    Ch3-90% of an SLO

    Channel 2 is probalby where you're going to find what you want. Turn the gain down about halfway and you've got that classic Marshall breakup sound. It sounds exactly like all the soundclips I've heard here of various Marshall, Roccaforte, and other boutiques.

    It's not EL34 though, it's 5881/6L6.
     
  10. Phil M

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    Intriguing suggestions. I am very impressed with Tophat, just sold my Club Royale. Nothing wrong with it, just wasn't using it in my current projects (would love to get another when I'm rich).

    I played a Shiva. That was one HELL of an amp.
     
  11. Teleplayer

    Teleplayer Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

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    +1,000

    The Emplex has a killer master volume.
     
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    One Word -- Roccaforte!

    Seriously - give Doug a call and he will help you in this tone quest!

    I love my Roccaforte (Thanks, Leon -- Purple tolex does sound good)...
     
  14. Phil M

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    Wow, the Aiken sounds really cool. This is more or less the base sound I'm looking for, and then I use a couple of pedals for heavier stuff.

    http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=174401

    We don't play the same, but that's the tone. His Invader would seem to be EL84, but is this more or less the Intruder tone?

    BTW, thanks for all these great suggestions. I'm not ready to buy anything and won't be for months, but some of these are out of my range. The new Roccaforte and Aiken heads $2000 and up. I'm not criticizing their pricing, I just don't see myself spending that kind of money on one head.
     
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    The Intruder is the same amp as the Invader, but Intruder has no reverb and does have a mv. The Invader has the verb and built in attenuator.

    EL84s are for the 18 watt version, 30 and 50 watters use EL34s in both amps. good luck.

    last time I checked I think the 50 Intruder was 1895 new, unless things have changed you can get a modest discount as well.
     
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    At one time I had owned an Intruder 30, EL34s
    Instead of reverb the Intruder head has an fx loop.
    Great master volume- best I 've heard in that type amp.
    We did a one on one A/B against the 50w Emplexador- same speakers, same guitar,etc.-Really no difference in volume- the 30w Aiken matched the 50W Hat, but even the owner or the other amp admitted at the time that the Aiken edged it out a bit in tone and feel.
    Both are great amps and should be on your list.
    For my money, and if you object to +$2000 Marshall-type EL-34 heads, you should look into Paul Cochrane's Heritage line. His 50w Patriout is killer, and there are other models worth exploring too.
     
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    I have a Rocca Custom 40. I haven't had too much time with this one yet, but it's definitely one to consider.
     
  19. Phil M

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    Didn't know he made amps. I checked the site. Reminded me a little of the Allen line (I currently use an Old Flame).

    What might be the benefits of a Patriot over a Britton II??
     
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    I wouldn't pretend to discuss the Britton II since I have not played or heard one, only seen it at NAMM. I have played the Patriot and also have been around it when it was demo'd at the Tampa ToneFest (its been getting rave reviews there for 2 years now) and at the Chicago ToneFest.
    I know that Paul is very proud all of his amps, but the Patriot was his flagship design. they have a patent on the transformer design which is revolutionary in its performance. Paul set out to make a 50w Marshall inspired amp that feels and behaves like the best of the old 100w plexis, with more control over the voicing and sag. He really nailed it. The only drawback is it doesn't have a master volume. I LOVE that amp through a 4x12. But if it is too much horsepower for you, you would need an attenuator, or at least a plexi shield if you are concerned about volume.
    Also, for the money, its about the best value out there in a head in that class and quality.
    I'm sure if you start a thread asking for comparisons and differences between the Patriot and Britton, some of the owners will chime in.
    I have no doubt the Britton rocks too. Paul builds great stuff.
    For disclosure- I consider him a friend, but I'm not an endorser, just an admirer. :)
     

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