McLaughlin - here's how he does it...
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dumb donnie
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It's not being stolen. There was no transcriptions of the exercises included with the DVD so after everyone complained they put up pdf's on John McLaughlin's website. Then someone converted them into tab. They are intentionally free.
Kevin Michael
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Gentlemen,
I'd like to clear up what seems to be misconceptions regarding the John McLaughlin DVD boxset 'This Is The Way I Do It'.
Firstly, to Simeon, I thank you for the link. Much appreciated.
To Spaceboy: If indeed your post made reference to John's music appearing on my website, your use of the word 'stolen' is quite a serious accusation, but I shall give quarter, and provide a civilised response below.
In addition to http://www.johnmclaughlin.com http://www.abstractlogix.com the John McLaughlin DVD guitar scores are also available from my site because I am the person who scored them. Guitar scores for the entire 12 DVD Chapters are complete. Although the .midi files which were generated from the written scores can be helpful, they are provided only as a supplement and hopefully to inspire the serious guitarist to purchase the DVD.
To Donnie: All modal, harmonic and rhythmic structures of the guitar scores were meticulously analyzed mathemusically, written out long hand on manuscript, and then entered into and prepared on the computer over a 7 week period of time. This work was done by me and with John's personal authorization. Nothing was 'converted' until the final phase when the native Finale and PowerTab files were converted into Adobe PDF format to be made readily available on the net, and no score has been made available without John's generous permission.
I hope I have successfully answered any questions you may have had regarding these scores and their availability.
I have only today joined this forum, and a fine and informative forum it looks to be. I look forward to reading and learning from all of you.
Greetings,
Kevin Michael
I'd like to clear up what seems to be misconceptions regarding the John McLaughlin DVD boxset 'This Is The Way I Do It'.
Firstly, to Simeon, I thank you for the link. Much appreciated.
To Spaceboy: If indeed your post made reference to John's music appearing on my website, your use of the word 'stolen' is quite a serious accusation, but I shall give quarter, and provide a civilised response below.
In addition to http://www.johnmclaughlin.com http://www.abstractlogix.com the John McLaughlin DVD guitar scores are also available from my site because I am the person who scored them. Guitar scores for the entire 12 DVD Chapters are complete. Although the .midi files which were generated from the written scores can be helpful, they are provided only as a supplement and hopefully to inspire the serious guitarist to purchase the DVD.
To Donnie: All modal, harmonic and rhythmic structures of the guitar scores were meticulously analyzed mathemusically, written out long hand on manuscript, and then entered into and prepared on the computer over a 7 week period of time. This work was done by me and with John's personal authorization. Nothing was 'converted' until the final phase when the native Finale and PowerTab files were converted into Adobe PDF format to be made readily available on the net, and no score has been made available without John's generous permission.
I hope I have successfully answered any questions you may have had regarding these scores and their availability.
I have only today joined this forum, and a fine and informative forum it looks to be. I look forward to reading and learning from all of you.
Greetings,
Kevin Michael
yeh, sorry - stolen was completely the wrong word. Was just thinking that if all that WAS all there was to the DVD then it's a bit... silly, giving it away free.
but fair do's, and a good job you did to!
(wow, you know John! ooooh ^_^)*
*to some degree at least. and a higher degree than me at any rate...
but fair do's, and a good job you did to!
(wow, you know John! ooooh ^_^)*
*to some degree at least. and a higher degree than me at any rate...
just ordered mine from abstract logix - they're on sale right now for $155 holiday special. this looks to be the most well thought out comprehensive instuctional guide for intermediate to advanced players out there & should last me quite a while. I can't wait to get started. there's some clips on guitarplayer tv web site too.
hey Kevin - great job man!
hey Kevin - great job man!
I downloaded these from John's site about a year ago. They've been there since he got them.
I thought, "cool I don't need the DVD's now". Well my wife got me the DVD for some occasion...let me tell you, the $160 was chump change for how much they are worth. Trust me, you WANT the DVD's...the transcriptions are not complete, nor are they all right.
Maybe Kevin will fix them up someday and finish them. The only grip is about the music notation, you have to watch it go by two measures at a time on the screen. If only there was a way to print what was on the screen so you could lay ot out in front of you. Because the screen notation seems to be dead on.
Oh by the way Kevin, great stuff you have at the Mahavishnu interactive site. It bewilders me how you came up with ALL those transcriptions of that amazing music. Very cool!
EDIT after rereading Kevins post he does mention the scores have been completed, I'll be heading over to his site. If that's the case, Thx Kevin.
I thought, "cool I don't need the DVD's now". Well my wife got me the DVD for some occasion...let me tell you, the $160 was chump change for how much they are worth. Trust me, you WANT the DVD's...the transcriptions are not complete, nor are they all right.
Maybe Kevin will fix them up someday and finish them. The only grip is about the music notation, you have to watch it go by two measures at a time on the screen. If only there was a way to print what was on the screen so you could lay ot out in front of you. Because the screen notation seems to be dead on.
Oh by the way Kevin, great stuff you have at the Mahavishnu interactive site. It bewilders me how you came up with ALL those transcriptions of that amazing music. Very cool!
EDIT after rereading Kevins post he does mention the scores have been completed, I'll be heading over to his site. If that's the case, Thx Kevin.
Gennation, please elaborate. From what I can tell reading your posts, we see eye-to-eye on many things musical. I'd like to know what, specifically, are you gaining from the DVD? Is it more theoretical or technical? Is it a lick-library? Is it hands-on with immediate impact, like Don Mock's suff? Or do you have to do alot of mining, like "Chord Chemistry"? Have you come away with any revelations?
As a McLaughlin fan, I'm interested in getting it. But it is an expensive addition to my heaping collection of study material. I'd like to know what I can expect to gain from it, assuming I actually put in the time to master the material.
I invite anybody else who has the DVD to comment. Thanks for the help.
John does NOT show you how to physically play like he does. IOW, he doesn't really talk technique (how I hold the pick, alternating picking, etc...)
But he shows you literally EVERYTHING he plays. The first chapter starts out taking things most serious guitarist know, the scales of the Major scale, or modes. But he shows you how to think of them in Intervals instead of the note after note patterns that many others play.
That's where the intro ends for most guitarist. Because after that he starts showing "John Mclaughlin" stuff. The Triads chapter shows some great exercises, then has you doing them over So What!
It just escalates from there. By the end of the first DVD he's shown you A LOT of stuff. Useful stuff. Then there two more DVD's!!! It's a journey through his 90's era, a Mahavishnu vamp, some Shakti material, and much much more.
The lessons are laid out great. You get a lesson, he shows you and Easy demo of the material, then an Advanced demo over the same tune.
Then he stands in a room with a large screen projector, and he talks through analyzing whats going on with the Advanced Demo. He'll stop the music pointing out this section and that section. Very detailed. And as with any lesson he always incorporates all the previous material in each Demo.
So, a lesson is taught, an Easy demo is played, an Advanced demo is played, then John analyzes the Advanced demo in detail.
To play like John would be short comings for most people, but his concepts of theory are the thing that will stick to you forever. GREAT teaching! That's what the DVD's are all about.
The drawbacks to the DVD are...
During the analyzing of the Advanced Demo, the audio he's/you're listening to is recorded through the microphone that he's talking through. So, at times it isn't the greatest. But you do have the actual Advanced Demo to listen to by going back to it.
The other one is there no book persay, or complete persentation of the notation. It's all on screen. As this thread mentions there is tab and notation available, but it's incomplete for sure and has mistakes he and there pertaining to where John is actually playing the parts.
And, if you don't read notation you might have an issue. What's on screen is ALL notation, no tab. And, the tabs are incomplete. So, you should know that if you are going to by it.
But, still...John presents it in a way where you are going to "get it". It'll just be hard to follow through the playing part of the program.
Hope that helps.
There's at least one video of the DVD's on youtube.com. He shows the Matindale Advanced Demo.
Also, guitarplayertv.com has clips from chapter one. But it's just the "here are the modes" part. It doesn't getting to showing you what he does with them..
But with all of those vids you'll get a good idea of the format everythings persented in. I equate it to a trumpet player getting a lesson from Miles, or a sax player from Coltrane. Plus you can watch it over and over.
Hope that helps.
But he shows you literally EVERYTHING he plays. The first chapter starts out taking things most serious guitarist know, the scales of the Major scale, or modes. But he shows you how to think of them in Intervals instead of the note after note patterns that many others play.
That's where the intro ends for most guitarist. Because after that he starts showing "John Mclaughlin" stuff. The Triads chapter shows some great exercises, then has you doing them over So What!
It just escalates from there. By the end of the first DVD he's shown you A LOT of stuff. Useful stuff. Then there two more DVD's!!! It's a journey through his 90's era, a Mahavishnu vamp, some Shakti material, and much much more.
The lessons are laid out great. You get a lesson, he shows you and Easy demo of the material, then an Advanced demo over the same tune.
Then he stands in a room with a large screen projector, and he talks through analyzing whats going on with the Advanced Demo. He'll stop the music pointing out this section and that section. Very detailed. And as with any lesson he always incorporates all the previous material in each Demo.
So, a lesson is taught, an Easy demo is played, an Advanced demo is played, then John analyzes the Advanced demo in detail.
To play like John would be short comings for most people, but his concepts of theory are the thing that will stick to you forever. GREAT teaching! That's what the DVD's are all about.
The drawbacks to the DVD are...
During the analyzing of the Advanced Demo, the audio he's/you're listening to is recorded through the microphone that he's talking through. So, at times it isn't the greatest. But you do have the actual Advanced Demo to listen to by going back to it.
The other one is there no book persay, or complete persentation of the notation. It's all on screen. As this thread mentions there is tab and notation available, but it's incomplete for sure and has mistakes he and there pertaining to where John is actually playing the parts.
And, if you don't read notation you might have an issue. What's on screen is ALL notation, no tab. And, the tabs are incomplete. So, you should know that if you are going to by it.
But, still...John presents it in a way where you are going to "get it". It'll just be hard to follow through the playing part of the program.
Hope that helps.
There's at least one video of the DVD's on youtube.com. He shows the Matindale Advanced Demo.
Also, guitarplayertv.com has clips from chapter one. But it's just the "here are the modes" part. It doesn't getting to showing you what he does with them..
But with all of those vids you'll get a good idea of the format everythings persented in. I equate it to a trumpet player getting a lesson from Miles, or a sax player from Coltrane. Plus you can watch it over and over.
Hope that helps.
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I noticed this DVD set is on sale for $99 so I searched and found this thread. Gennation's review helped me decide to go ahead order. Thanks!
BTW, I notice there's all these links to PDFs and tabs on the product page now.
BTW, I notice there's all these links to PDFs and tabs on the product page now.
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GovernorSilver
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http://www.abstractlogix.com/xcart/product.php?productid=17686&cat=276&page=1
Click the link that says "TABLATURES"
Thank you, sir!
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