Merged Van Halen Super Thread...post here. STOP WITH THE OTHER THREADS ALREADY

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clintmartin

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I've never been a Sammy fan. I didn't like him before, during or after Van Halen. I do realize he is good...I just don't like it at all. This is the last version of Van Halen there will ever be so I'll just enjoy listening to Ed play for as long as he is willing to do it. They have earned the right to have fun at this point.
 

Heinz57Pep

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It's more that they are all getting older, so it's to be expected. You can't expect the performance of a 30 year old. VH could get a hotshot new young singer to nail all the notes, I wouldn't be interested in it.

A lot of it is nostalgia. It's good to see them together again. Lots of older bands are really slipping. I heard the stones last tour was pretty bad, etc etc. It's just good to see them together.
That's it right there. I just watched "Jump" on Ellen and I found myself grinning from ear to ear.
 

lp_bruce

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That's it right there. I just watched "Jump" on Ellen and I found myself grinning from ear to ear.
And I generally feel OK with it, in part because I love Van Halen and the band sounds great. I'm so happy to see Eddie healthy, sober, and playing that Dave's lapses don't really bother me too much. And with some songs he's fine.

Peace,
 
I think the degree to which one can appreciate this depends on the degree to which one is in this more for nostalgia or for the music (some combination of both really).

I see people in here saying that the VH people are old etc but Glenn Hughes sings his ass off in his 60s today and John McLaughlin rips at age 72 as does Holdsworth at close to that age.

DLR is a very interesting guy and fun frontman but he clearly doesn't take singing as seriously as he could or he would be taking vocal lessons to help out instead of doing sword lessons or any one of the 50 other things he does seemingly quite intensely.

VH's brand of rock would be hard to pull off just right (especially for a frontman) after a certain age even if one did everything right.

In some ways, I enjoy Roth a lot more on his video channel talking about his interests than when he sings but I can appreciate VH being out there.
 

lp_bruce

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I see people in here saying that the VH people are old etc but Glenn Hughes sings his ass off in his 60s today and John McLaughlin rips at age 72 as does Holdsworth at close to that age.

DLR is a very interesting guy and fun frontman but he clearly doesn't take singing as seriously as he could or he would be taking vocal lessons to help out instead of doing sword lessons or any one of the 50 other things he does seemingly quite intensely.
While I completely agree that Dave doesn't appear to take singing seriously (I'm honestly not sure he ever has), we all age differently. If you assume we all take care of ourselves equally, some of us will still look younger as we age, some will be more cognitively with it, some will maintain their muscle tone better, etc. And obviously some will suffer from afflictions which affect our performance. Some of that is how you take care of yourself. Some of it is your genetics.

But to your point, I think you're right that Dave doesn't appear to have worked to keep his vocal chops up. I think Dave is great at being Dave... kind of a singular celebrity. And he's so "him" that it can be mesmerizing. But if you really analyzed his vocal performance, he's got a lot of problems.

Peace,
 
Wow, they were really awful! Roth sounded just plain bad. They did Jump and played along with a pre-recorded track. It was embarasing....
 

YYZ

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Just watched Panama. DLR sounded like an old guy singing along in the crowd; off time and everything. Weak link with an otherwise tight tight band. Alex and Wolfgang were on point. EVH was great too.
 

GerryJ

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DLR is a very interesting guy and fun frontman but he clearly doesn't take singing as seriously as he could or he would be taking vocal lessons to help out instead of doing sword lessons or any one of the 50 other things he does seemingly quite intensely.
To me, he sounds like someone who doesn't sing on a regular basis, just when it's cha-ching time every 3-4 yrs. EVH still sounds like someone who plays ~ 1 hr/day 4-5 times a week (Jeff Beck's schedule). Wolfie probably more, as he has his own musical projects. Alex probably less.
 

docgorpon

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Yeah, isn't that show for lesbians and housewives? That's some manager's bad call. Smacks of total irrelevancy. I guess they really are a household name in every sense of the term, though.
 
No problem with them on Ellen, but Jump! I think they could have done a whole lot better. Perhaps .... Dance the Night Away! Or god forbid UNCHAINED! I would love to see that audience bee bop to that one! :stir
 

derekd

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Goodness that was awful!

Dave's moves look like a cross between Scott Weiland's slither and Axel Rose's funky dance. Eddie still has it. Weird not seeing MA on bass.
 

Steve Foley

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My mama always said if you can't say something good.....

....and, I REALLY try to not run down other musicians - it's not a competition.....

..... so I'll just say Eddie's looking great. Confident, at ease, playing as good as ever, and looking like he's enjoying himself. Alex sounds good, maybe looks a little disconnected with everyone else .... uuuummmm, I'll leave it at that....


Sometimes it's best to quit while you're on top, and EVH is one of my favorite bands - definitely in my top-10 List. What has been let out of Pandora's Box cannot be put back in; what has been seen cannot be unseen. Once the circus train pulls off, it's time for the clown to put the act away.
 
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