Merged Van Halen Super Thread...post here. STOP WITH THE OTHER THREADS ALREADY

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sleepingtiger

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They should have picked a tune that didn't need backing tracks. Somehow hearing a musician that isn't there makes me feel cheated. Not a true LIVE performance, even though their parts were clearly live. Just MY opinion...

Tony
 

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It baffles me that anyone wishes for Sammy in Van Halen. I can count the number of Van Hagar songs I like on one hand.

..." He's not convincing as a party-hearty all-about-the-good-times guy--never has been.
The Red Rocker is a louder version of Jimmy Buffett. The Guy Fieri of rock. In fact, the Cabo Wabo Cantina should do the All-You-Can-Eat Red Rocker Buffet.



Yup. Basically, they are making fools of themselves (mostly from Dave's stupidness and ****** vocals)..

One of the best rock bands ever, and they are ending their careers like this. Sad.
Yeah.

Who wants to see them finish up happy, alive and on their terms?

Here's to hoping for a plane crash, an OD or a recurrence of Ed's cancer.

smh


I get that people don't like this version of VH. I do. But I think it says more about middle-aged men not liking that they're being reminded of the passage of time. I think they're aging as gracefully as they can.

FWIW, I showed my wife (no VH fan, but not a hater either - and a trained stage actress) the Ellen "Dance The Night Away" clip and her impression was "That was really sweet, I'd go. Dave's voice is shot, but they guy can work a room." So maybe they're branching out, and when that happens, maybe some of the Camaros get replaced by Audis in the parking lot.
 

HeyMrTeleMan

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The more I see Eddie grow up the more relaxed and happy he appears to be. He just seems comfortable in his skin and he has total control and command of his guitar. His playing looks effortless, but so complex.
I'm a fan.

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I do agree about the constant **** eating grin. He used to be "oh so much cooler than you" whereas now he just seems kinda dorky. The "silliness" seemed to really take hold during the bluegrass VH album he did, and it never really went away.

To each his own, but maybe being "cooler than you" isn't really where it's at, at least not for everyone. EVH himself seems to be smiling just as much. Maybe they are both just happy to be there, making music. I can't begrudge them that.


Where did the swagger go.
Everyone gets older and perspectives change. How well is youthful-swagger-in-middle-to-old-age working for Axl Rose? Glenn Danzig? Vince Neil?
 

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They should have picked a tune that didn't need backing tracks. Somehow hearing a musician that isn't there makes me feel cheated. Not a true LIVE performance, even though their parts were clearly live. Just MY opinion...

Tony
I wasn't crazy about them doing Jump either and I'm sure it wasn't their favorite choice but given the Ellen audience it was the perfect choice.
Not sure Mean Street or Sinners Swing would have worked out too well.
 

John Hurtt

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Love VH...but watching the videos was painful. Band sounded good...but the vocals were beyond brutally bad...

Now, I understand that everyone gets old...but if you can't handle the gig....
 

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Dammit, what a fickle bunch of old grumps on this friggin' page. Seriously.

All people did was bitch and whine about VH coming back for years. Then they do. All people do here is complain about it.

"Where's Sammy"
"Dave's old"
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And not for nothing guys, but 60 year-old Dave is in better shape than 99% of the people here whining about him. Sheesh.
For the record, Sammy is pretty close to 70 now.
 

Steve Hotra

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Audience got free tickets to the HB show and a CD?
Great marketing and promotion.

I am becoming a EVH follower because he survived all of the drinking/ drug issues.

Like someone else posted, a new album by VH, but with guest singers on each song would be cool.

Didn't that work for Carlos Santana a few years ago?
 

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Guys, how can anyone musical not cringe at the current DLR?........
People that listen with their memory and their love for VH instead of what their ears are hearing and their eyes are seeing.

However, I'm not sure 30YO Ed played a whole lot better than he is right now. If he's lost a step, I'm not sure where it is. Which begs the question, would we be having this conversation if Ed played as badly as Dave sings?.....
No, we wouldn't, based on the comparable skill loss of Robert Plant and Jimmy Page.

......to my ear he actually *could* do more actual singing and is just too into being Dave to bother.......
Are you saying that DLR can sing at a high level right now but chooses not to?

Seeing those girls jumping in the Ellen show audience sorta says it all doesn't it?
The demographic of the Ellen show is probably about the same demographic as VH's, so that's not really surprising.
 

Matt L

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I thought it was great! The band just exudes good vibes, and I thought they sounded great. DLR was DLR.....a complete ham and just pure fun. His vocals were fine.
 

spakuloid

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I personally think those amps or whatever he's got going on (who knows what it really is) sound as good as he's ever sounded. I do miss MA but the kid sounds fine.
 

ELmiguel

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The band sounded good enough for TV.
Watching David was like being in Las Vegas and seeing some guy do a bad tribute show with too much adlib talking. All that was missing was asking an audience member "Hey, where are you from?".
 
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I personally wasn't interested in VH after Dave left. It's not that Sam can't sing. He's a perfectly serviceable rock singer.

To me, Dave embodies the spirit of Van Halen, along with Ed of course. There really isn't anyone else like him.

Look at almost any other rock singer today, or through the history of rock music for that matter. So many brooding, serious, shoe-gazing, sticks-in-the-mud.

Dave has always been a breath of fresh air, and he still is. Between him and Ed, you can't not smile when you see them perform.

BTW, his voice is strong and solid in the Ellen clip.
 

KHAN

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It's amazing that every VH thread eventually evolves into guys hurling insults at each other. Grow up forchristsake...

Ed looks and is playing great.
 

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I thought it was cool and they looked like they were having a great time. Life is too short to bitch about everything.
 
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Those vids prove the following:


  • Van Halen (the band) is OLD!
  • Dave is as kooky as ever.
  • Eddie's fat kid got the gig 'cause he's Eddie's kid.
  • Diamond Dave is a 1000 times the showman than Hagar ever was!


I love Sammy's early 80s solo stuff, but there's a reason Van Hagar was boring. DLR brings the fun to VH! I don't know how anyone that likes VH could watch that and not smile.
 

scottlr

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It's amazing that every VH thread eventually evolves into guys hurling insults at each other. Grow up forchristsake...

Ed looks and is playing great.
I've been here a long time. It is NOT at all amazing. To me, it is expected. I read it for amusement and not much else.

I need to go back and watch some the original VH footage to do a fair comparison of DLR. He is and has always been quite a character. I just can't recall how he used to do it very well. I am old, too. About his age, and no way in hell could I pull off the stage show he does.

OK, back to the petty bickering. Amuse me some more, fellas. :D
 
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