Mesa Lonestar Special - Creamback M or H ?

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  1. Stormin

    Stormin Supporting Member

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    Hey y'all,

    I'm looking for speaker advice for a Mesa Lonestar Special. I currently have a Vintage 30 in it and it sounds much better than the stock MC90, but I think I could still do better. I did try a Celestion Gold and could not warm up to it at all - it was way too soft and squishy.

    I'm leaning towards something more vintage-y and can't decide between the M and H Creambacks, which would be the better choice for this amp. I do use both channels on the amp and also add in a Klon KTR for additional options. Tone wise, I'm looking for blues, classic rock and maybe some rocking modern country.

    Thanks!
     
  2. riffmeister

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    H has a tighter low end and a bit more top and it's a bit more efficient than the M
     
  3. big mike

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    Id probably stick with the v30.
     
  4. TubeStack

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    I wouldn't have changed the C90. That's a fantastic speaker, especially in a 1x12.
     
  5. big mike

    big mike Moderator - EL34 Emeritas Staff Member

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    That's what I meant.
    Mesa's seem to sound best with their speakers.
     
  6. Stormin

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    Of all the Mesa's I've ever owned, the MC90 and the EVM12L are my least favorite speakers. I've always preferred them with something more mid-rangey, like the Vintage 30. For the Special, however, the amp is voiced so differently from the Marks that I'm used to that I was thinking an M or an H might work better - especially with the EL84s.
     
  7. tmac

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    I was thinking about an H for mine. As lng as they don't have a cone cry issue. One good thing about the MC90 is no cone cry. The V30 are usually unusable for me.
     
  8. jmontgomery

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    I'd bet the Mesa Fillmore 75 would sound great in the LSS.
     
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    Can you even buy a Mesa Fillmore 75? I remember Mesa announcing them a couple of years ago, but can't seem to find them for sale. I think they were used in the King Snake and are used for the Rectoverb 25 combo. I've had my LSS for a while, really love the amp and I think the C90 is an excellent speaker. Sometimes I have thoughts about swapping speakers to shake things up, but the ideas I have thought about might not work for both channels in a way I want.

    I have always wondered if an alnico speaker would make channel 1 better with a clarity and chime I can't quite dial in the way I hear in my mind, while I would like a tighter low end and some better top end for channel 2. I'm not sure if there is a speaker that than do all that I hope for so I've left mine stock.
     
  10. yardbird mac

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    I went on a speaker quest for both of my Express 5:50s. I've decided that the MC90s work best for me. Once broken in they seem well balanced. The MC90 in my 5:50 combo was reconed last fall and it's just a little less edgy than an unmolested MC90, but it still has most of the character of its original pre recone state*. Both of my 23" LoneStar (single 12" speaker) cabs are MC90 equipped.

    *I accidentally poked a hole in the cone on a stud in the baffle. I didn't have a good grip on the speaker frame when I was trying to install it.:bonk
     
  11. jmontgomery

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    You can buy the Fillmore direct from Mesa. I have one in a thiele stacked on another thiele w/C90 and it's a great sound.
     
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    I put a C90 in my JCM800 4010 and love it. Tried a Creamback M and didn't like it near as much.
     
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    I'm curious as to what speakers you've tried in it since I have that amp. What's the difference in the MC90 and C90?
     
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    They are both great speakers.

    The WGS Retro 30 is a good choice for that amp, too.
     
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    If I could get one of these I would. I heard in a rv and sounded great and think it would b great for a LSS
     
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    I just looked at mesa site and they do have film ore on there, gonna order one
     
  17. Stormin

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    MC90 = Mesa Celestion 90. C90 = Celestion 90. There's no difference, some folks just drop the Mesa part. iIRC, the MC90 is a modified Classic Lead 80 that Celestion tweaks for Mesa. They've been using it since the late 80's or early 90's.
     
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    And last i. Checked still made in jolly ol England
     
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    I orderdd a filmore from mesa
     
  20. jmontgomery

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    I think you'll like it.
     

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