message in a bottle harmony on guitar

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  1. neastguy

    neastguy Supporting Member

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    anyone know the harmony part on guitar for the main chords.. I know the main chords for the dflat, a, b,f#. (dont know the actual chord names, theyre something sus chords)... been struggling with the harmony part... thanks..:RoCkIn
     
  2. TwinandTwang

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    are you playing these as 9th chords?
     
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    yep I think... the first chord and all the rest follow pattern of....

    Dflat/aflat/eflat
     
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    Db9, A9, B9, F#9 (slide up the last note of this chord up a whole step at the end)


    Spelled out like you described. Same pattern for all chords.
     
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    There'a a great video - I think it's the Police in Montsarrat - wherein Andy Summers shows exactly how he plays it.
     
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    Technically, it's a C# add 9, as the key is A.
     
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    C#add9 Aadd9 Badd9 F#add9 sliding up to m3. The chordal pattern is the same for each chord during the verse. This is how Andy plays it:

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    -------8----------------------(sl)----
    -----6---------9------11-----6-7----
    ---4---------7------9------4---------
    -----------5------7------2-----------
     
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    The Sting solo version on the "Secret Policeman's Other Ball" is beautiful.
     
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    Hey Neastguy!

    Sounds like your band is 'changing up' the setlist?

    My band just played at Lamplighter in Parma Hts last weekend. Every been there? What a wierd setup! Gig went well.

    Where is your band playing these days. Let me know.

    thanks,

    dave
     
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    Agreed. Out of all his solo work, the "blue turtles" period is my favorite, especially the "Bring on the Night" soundtrack. Just the mood and atmosphere he created when he went more down the jazz route.
     
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    we will be in twinsburg "rush hour bar and grille" Sat and then the following week we will be at the Parma Tavern with our old drummer who we havent played with in 4 months....lol.. also, were trying learn some new stuff...

    message in the bottle, I swear there is a harmony part that goes with that main guitar part.... I know that part, its the harmomy part I'd like to learn ... am I just hearing things?
     
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    this is how I play it too.... but where's the harmony part....lol..:jo
     
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    Which part do you mean?

    the rest goes like...

    A D E A
    I send an SOS to the world 2x

    F#m D
    I hope that someone gets my 3x

    C#m A(add9)
    Message in a bottle

    (... and then F#m11. I voice it like this and use false harmonics 12 frets above)

    e 0
    b 0
    g 2
    d 2
    a 0
    e 2


    Was that what you wanted to know?
     
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    ok, i may just be crazy, but I swear the is a harmony guitar part that goes with the main guitar part (intro) I know all that stuff above... I'll have to go home again tonight and listen to it again... its almost like he's starts with playing C#m starting on the 5th of the chord picking it and so on.....
     
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    I can slightly hear a harmony but...why not just sit down and build off the root chords? Pop harmonies are typically built off the notes in a triad. Record the main part, then try recording the same part a 3rd or 5th above. Since they're a 3-piece band live and the harmony is pretty buried with all the chorusing on the studio album, I wouldn't worry about it too much.
     
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    believe it or not I tried it and couldnt come up with anything that sounded correct.... anyhow, your right I was just putting out feelers to see if anyone actually new the harmony part.... we are a two guitar band and I thought it would be nice to do the double part.. but believe me we can live with just doing the one part together.......:BEER
     
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    You are absolutely right. There is indeed a harmony part. (Haven´t heard that song in quite a while). ....
     
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    good I'm not crazy..... but I dont know why I cant pick it out, usually I have a pretty decent ear for these things... granted, I dont do much figuring out of songs anymore because of Powertab... but still, back in the day, thats all I would do... :JAM
     
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    Second guitar just plays the 5th for each change, doesn't it? That's the only harmony I remember.
     
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    Yeah, there's a low level guitar playing everything a 5th above the main part.

    So while the main guitar plays C# G# D# the second guitar plays G# D# A#. Etc.

    Adds up to make each chord a 6 add9, but it's really really subtle, and not missed live.
     

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