Michael Anthony: Van Halen ‘Pulled the Plug’ on Summer Reunion Tour

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  1. 27sauce

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    Considering what Michael Anthony did to be on the ‘04 tour, I think he’d be willing to put up with, and do pretty much anything for a buck.
     
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  2. tribalfusion

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    You should be surprised then:

    "Howard Stern asked if Sammy is a billionaire. Sammy said he isn’t but he has plenty of money. He said that maybe he has 250. He said that it’s distracting if you keep track of that. He said you get a big ol’ check for 50 million you don’t feel it. He said you get some gold and silver coins then you feel like you have something. He said there’s something about the paper money. Howard said Michael is looking at him like **** this guy. Howard asked if Michael is worth something like that. Michael said he is up there somewhere."

    http://www.alternativenation.net/van-halen-member-reveals-much-money/


    To be honest, I have no idea why it would surprise you that MA could be a very wealthy guy given his career. He's also reasonably well versed in business outside of music and his sauces do well for him too.
     
  3. Drak

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    Michael blew it, big time.
    When Azoff asked him if he'd be interested, he should have had the answer ready to go.
    'Nope'. And hung up the phone.
    And dumped those chump-ass brothers and their bait tactics like the blowhard losers they are.
    He would have won the match in that scenario.

    But as it stands, they got to dump on him yet One More Time.
    The minute he said yes, they ruled him, they 'owned' him, yet again.
    He blew it. Whatever.
    Now he's a loser along with the rest of them.
     
  4. 27sauce

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    A well versed, and wealthy businessman doesn’t trade publishing/songwriting rights, and rights to his band’s catalog/use of name...to play on a tour for a sideman/hired hand salary. That’s “forever” money to make a quick buck on 80 shows. That’s not very wise, is it?

    Not to mention his VH cut has been diminished at least twice before they split up, starting with, ironically, Sammy.

    He must be selling a shitload of sauces.
     
  5. Big'Uns

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    Agreed. He's always seemed to me a "glue guy" kinda like Jason Newsted in Metallica during the years where relationships were very frayed. An upbeat, easy-going personality was needed to keep the whole thing from blowing up.
     
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  6. tribalfusion

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    There are plenty of reasons he might do that and nothing points to him hurting for money. He might well have just wanted to have been a part of the band at that point and gotten a very nice payout to go along with it and in fact wasn't writing songs with them anyway.

    You have a quote from him directly saying he's up in the 250 million dollar range somewhere just recently but of course, as usual, you know better.

    MA made millions with Van Halen and has been married to the same woman for close to 40 years. Couple that with other projects as well as his sauces and a relatively modest lifestyle given the rock star that he was and he can easily be a very wealthy man as he himself stated.

    Mike isn't going to release a bank statement to either of us but he came as close as he ever has or will to stating that he is in the 250$ million range.
     
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    I’ve heard rumors the plug was actually pulled over a health issue...
     
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    That never made sense to me either. Plus, I just wouldn't want to give them the satisfaction.
     
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  9. 27sauce

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    Plenty of reasons to relinquish extremely valuable rights? Like what? What are some reasons that don’t have to do with money? It’s like selling your house for an opportunity to rent it.

    Sammy has talked about how bad MA’s deal was for that tour. He felt bad for him. No way he got nice payout. Why would VH give him anything?
     
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    They won't, and they never will.
    Unless it's completely for their personal benefit.
    They're just treating him like a chump because he's allowing it to happen.
    Sucks to be a guy like that.

    They know they can treat him however they want and get away with it and he'll be right there begging for more.
    They know that.
    Too bad he doesn't get it.
     
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    Not with $250million in sauce money.
     
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  12. Drak

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    Well, if he held his own, then yes.
    But he can't do it, he can't hold his own head high and know its history now and move on permanently.
    He can't do it.
    And they know that.
    He's like the old girlfriend to them that's still hanging on, hoping.
    It's disgusting really.
     
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    I just told you and I'll repeat it: "He might well have just wanted to have been a part of the band at that point and gotten a very nice payout to go along with it and in fact wasn't writing songs with them anyway"

    MA said he is up in the 250 million dollar range and it's not unreasonable to assume a lot of it derives from VH. Beyond a certain wealth level, playing in VH might have meant more to him. He himself confirmed on air that he's up in Hagar's 250 million dollar range.

    If you don't assume he's lying as you appear to be then it all seems reasonable enough. Does he need to be make every decision based on maximizing his wealth when he's in the 250 million dollar range already? It doesn't mean he doesn't know how to be shrewd with his money.

    Either way we have his own words as to his own wealth which you of course skip right over since they contradict your 'insider' knowledge.
     
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    Once you've flushed your own balls down the toilet, they're gone.
    Even if you flushed them for money, they're still gone.
    Then, you're nothing, nothing but a cheap paper tiger image of something you once were, but are no more.
     
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    Never underestimate the power of the sauce.

    You, of all people should know that.
     
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    Seriously, I had no idea. Sorry, MA.

    So, if Sammy Hagar and Michael Anthony are both worth around 250m, what the hell is Sammy doing so wrong with his money?!

    He should be worth a couple of hundred million more than his sideguy bass player. He owns his catalog, publishing. Has a lucrative travel business that rents busses and planes to rockstars. Sold the tequila biz(80 percent) for 80 mil...is he just bad with money?!

    The sauce biz...wow.
     
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  18. Raygun Gothic

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    Sammy may own his catalog and publishing, but do you think it's bringing in nearly as much as the VH catalog? Or the BOC catalog? Or the Talking Heads catalog?
     
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  19. 27sauce

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    He owns half of the Van Hagar publishing outside of songwriting. Van Halen doesn’t even own their publishing, Warner Brothers does.

    When a Van Hagar song gets played on the radio, 50/50 is split between publishing and songwriting. Hagar gets 50 of the publishing, WB gets the other. They then split the songwriting between the writers, which according to his book wasn’t an even split.

    So yeah, Hagar’s publishing income should be pretty valuable, solo and VH considered.
     
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