Microphone advise needed

Feste12

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I am considering changing up the mics I use for recording acoustic guitar, both nylon and steel string.
I have been using Gefell M300, Gefell M930, Gefell M295 and Beesneez Lulu mics.
I am looking to add more warmth and maybe breadth to the mix.
I am considering these mics:
AEA N8
AEA N22
Josephson e22s
All of which I read good things about. Can anyone who has used these mics give me some idea what to expect or make suggestions?
Thanks
 

Rex Anderson

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The Gefells you have are pretty good mics. Adding a ribbon could give you something different, definitely warmer.

The Josephson would sound a lot like the other SDC mics IMO.

Maybe you need a warmer mic pre, Neve 1073 like or a tube mic pre.
 

loudboy

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A ribbon, like the Royer R-121, flipped around for more hi end, and about 6-12" off the lower bout of the guitar by the bridge, will add tremendous warmth and body to the sound, in conjunction with a SDC at the 12th fret.

One of my favorite combinations for solo A Gtr, if you want stereo.
 

Feste12

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A ribbon, like the Royer R-121, flipped around for more hi end, and about 6-12" off the lower bout of the guitar by the bridge, will add tremendous warmth and body to the sound, in conjunction with a SDC at the 12th fret.

One of my favorite combinations for solo A Gtr, if you want stereo.
So, you prefer the Royer over the AEA 8 or 22? If so, can you elaborate on why?
 

oldhousescott

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For preamps, I'd look into something by BAE, Chandler, Daking, even the Avalon 737. Get a little color from your pre and don't be afraid of eq'ing on the way in.
 

Rex Anderson

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Good mic preamps are not inexpensive, so a lot depends on your budget. You need at least 2 channels to work in stereo/with 2 mics.

If you go the API 500 series route, you have the upfront expense of the rack/power supply.

Great River is a good Neve inspired sound. I also like John Hardy M-1's with transformers, clean but full bodied and warm.

The Buzz Audi MA2.2 is amazing sounding: http://vintageking.com/buzz-audio-ma2-2?gclid=CO-6i5nQzcsCFUQ9gQodDfsGGw
 
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Papanate

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Interesting thought... Any pre-amp suggestions?
The aforementioned BAE 1073 has got some magic in it.
The Chandler LTD-1 is another that has some Neve magic.
If your budget can handle it - I would get a couple of
real Neve 1073 Preamps. There is some definite voodoo
that occurs in them - that's different than anyone else.

As for the ribbon microphones - you certainly have a good selection
going. If it were me I would head to a neutral studio with
the microphones in question - and then record a track with
each mic and the preamps you currently use. Or barring
another studio - bring an engineer in so you will be focused
only on the playing and not the recording.

Then listen to the recordings a couple of days later and ponder
if you are hearing what you are looking to hear.

As has been said before - you mic selection should be able
to give you exactly what you want ( if placed correctly and
with a properly matched MicPreamp.)
 

Rex Anderson

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I worked with an AEA R84 and a Royer R122V (tube version of the 121).

The R84 was darker than the R122. Not all ribbons sound the same. Look at frequency response to see how extended the high end is (or isn't).
 

Rockinrob86

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I'm a huge fan of my beyerdynamic MC930 - but I'm not sure how different it would be from what you have.
 




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