MIJ guitars using Sapele instead of mahogany?

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  1. duaneallen

    duaneallen Supporting Member

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    I was just wondering if Edwards and Tokai do this. I know that alot of the Korean made guitars that feature mahogany are actually using Sapele. Do the Japanese companies do this? Thanks for any input.
     
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    I notice what I refer to as "African mahogany" being used a great deal.
     
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    I think Tokai uses "African Mahogany". DonĀ“t know about Edwards.
     
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    sapele would make a maple capped les paul style guitar VERY heavy.
    maybe useful for sg types etc... but i dunno...

    i built a lp special look-alike from sapele. i had to make the body somewhat thinner than f.e. a regular historic special/junior would be (the guitar is close to 9lbs. btw.)
     
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    Edwards use Primavera wood or "white mahogany" (white in color) - lite and wery resonante. If mahogany is not named Swietenia macrophylla it is not real mahogany. Gibson standard usualy use or south ameican "not so good peice" or african. Other Mij i don't know.
    O another thing if you see a big company name with "hondurian mahogany" it is 99% false, because it is impossible to get real honduras mahogany in big quantities.
     
  7. Jon Silberman

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    Sapele is about = midrange mahogany in density but has a slightly higher modulus of elasticity. This is why, for my next Jerrycaster, I chose sapele over mahogany for the "hippie sandwich" style 5-piece "striped" neck, but mahogany over sapele for the primary middle segment of my also 5-piece "hippie sandwich" body.
     
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    Jon, what's that mean. I know a lot of Southeast Asian guitars are Sapele.
     
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    One piece sapele top (PRS West St. Ltd). Very much like mahogany in tone dept. This one is insanely figured.
    [​IMG]
     
  10. Jon Silberman

    Jon Silberman 10Q Jerry & Dickey Gold Supporting Member

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    Like we should drop a box of rain @ and dig that top for hours, man. [​IMG]
     
  11. Nickguitar

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    I was refering when you see "honduras mahogany on specs"

    There are:

    • Swietenia humilis - Pacific Coast Mahogany. Pacific coast of Central America and Mexico.
    • Swietenia macrophylla - Honduras Mahogany. Atlantic coast of Central America, South America south to Bolivia.
    • Swietenia mahagoni - West Indian Mahogany. Southern Florida, Cuba, Jamaica, Hispaniola.
    Than you got african :

    • Entandrophragma angolense - Tiama
    • Entandrophragma candollei - Kosipo
    • Entandrophragma cylindricum - Sapeli or Sapele
    • Entandrophragma utile - Sipo or Utile
    Than you got many many more (ex. Philippinei mahogany luan, Primavera) but they are not realy magohany.
    The thing is that guitar has to sound good. Price (wood) is not always insurance for the good tone. It dipends of grain, what part of the tree ,weight, how it will "connect" neck and body tonnaly (+ top, fingerboard), the design (construction) of a guitar and in the end it is always a personal tone taste. Than in the end comes the detail work (fret job, neck profile...) that can make good sound guitar "unplayable" or "perfect"
     
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