Mixing Ceramic & Alnico Spkrs?

stephenT

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Anyone here tried this? Any benefits tone wise?

I'm thinking the ceramic would be great for bottom and mid growl, the alnico would do the high end better?
 

TaronKeim

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Originally posted by stephenT
Anyone here tried this? Any benefits tone wise?

I'm thinking the ceramic would be great for bottom and mid growl, the alnico would do the high end better?
Well, a Celestion Alnico Blue and a Celestion Ceramic G12H30 are a massively popular combination for just that reason, the alnico compresses in the highs more, making them sweeter and less harsh while the G12H30 provides a nice firm lowend and more aggressive mids and highs. GREAT combination.

-TJK
 

Brick

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Originally posted by stephenT
Anyone here tried this? Any benefits tone wise?

I'm thinking the ceramic would be great for bottom and mid growl, the alnico would do the high end better?
I have a Red Fang and a Cannabis Rex in my new Avatar Premier 2x12 cab. I had a jam over the weekend and got great compliments on the amp/cab sound. That mix is the perfect sound for me, big lows and nice chime.
 

Jim Collins

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I do this in a three of my amps. Two of them are 2x10s and one is a 2x12.

In these amps, particularly the 2x10 critters, two alnico speakers yielded a good tone, but was not loud enough and was too compressed sounding. Two ceramic speakers didn't give me enough breakup. The combination of alnico and ceramic turned out to be the perfect match. I get a strong, fairly clean bottom end, with terrific breakup, and even a slight bit of compression on the top end.
 

The Rocket

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I have a Weber Alnico Blue Dog and a Celestion Greenback RI in my 2x12 cab. I really like the mix. The Weber is very "clear" and sweet, the Greenback is great for crunch.
Maybe one day I will try to mix the Weber with a GH30 for more tight bass response.
 

stephenT

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thanks all, i'm bringing in my Goodsell 22 Delux 2x12 today for some tweeking and having Richard replace one of the Private Jacks (nice spkr) with a red fang. I'll let you'all know.
 

mojowrkn

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I think it sounds like a killer idea. I am interested in trying a Red Fang and a Texas Heat together.

The descriptions and what i have read about them makes me think it would work but I am worried about the difference in dB rating and to a lesser degree the wattage.
 

Nathan

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I sort of stumbled on the combination of a Weber C10S and a P10R a couple of years ago, they were just the best sounding of the 10" I tried, so they stayed that way. Recently, I got a Fane alnico 12 to pair up with my Fane Studio 12L (alot like the EVM) so now I have 2 cabs with ceramic and alnico mixed. My Allen tonesavor was not really usable for cranked overdriven tones with 6L6's before but I recently had KT66's installed and this new speaker, and it sounds amazing. (however I can't tell if it's the alnico or the tubes which are making the big difference)
 

JohnnyL

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I'm using an Emi Red Fang and a Governor together in a K212 cab with my Knucklehead Reverb. They sound great together. I can differentiate the two but still they blend nicely. I plan to try a Wizard or Tonespotter with it too. The Governor will find residence in my JCM800 4210 if I prefer one of them with the Red Fang.

I was tempted to run two Fangs but was leary of the power mismatch and am glad I did the mix.

FWIW: The Governor sounds really good in the JCM800 combo.

Peace,

JohnnyL
 
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A Weber C1230 and a Blue Dog in a Bruno cabinet here...

The best of crunch & sparkle in the same box. The ceramic is tight, the Alnico is juicy - the highs are perfect for a strat.
 

stephenT

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well, we tried a Private Jack and a Red Fang together and i hated it. Was flabby on the bottom end and small sounding, went back to (2) Private Jacks, it's love again. Not at all what I had expected in my mind's ear.
 

The Whiz

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I've mixed a Weber Alnico Blue Dog with both a greenback and a G12H-30 at different times. Gives a nice complex tone. However, I find lately I prefer a pair of alnico blue dogs (no mixing) in my Kingsley 2x12 cab in either semi-open or closed back configuration.

I know people tend to frown on alnico blue dogs in closed back cabs, but there is a really nice warmth and smoothing of the top end while tightening up the bottom it seems. I'm digging it.

taco
 

teefus

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i have a red fang and a texas heat in my avatar 2x12. super combination. the texas heat is a real sleeper and a true bargain.
 

Roe

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leofenderbender said:
A Weber C1230 and a Blue Dog in a Bruno cabinet here...

The best of crunch & sparkle in the same box. The ceramic is tight, the Alnico is juicy - the highs are perfect for a strat.
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I use a c1230-55 and a celestion alnico blue in a bogner OS open/closed back cab.
 




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