I played live for years with a Vox Tonelab into the clean channel of any amp that was already there and got great results. Sometimes I used cab sim, sometimes not. Just adjusted things until I got my sound, and I was always able to get my sound pretty quick.I run a HX Stomp straight into the front of my JC-120 (no effects loop) set fairly flat. I've come close to picking up a couple Powercabs but other purchases prevailed. I'm mainly using it for amp models on a loaded board. I know the general practice is to not use cab/IR when using an amp but everything just sounds better with the full-on amp/cab/mic into the amp. Tim Pierce did the same thing in his demo and loved it. The only downside I've come across so far is when going direct to record the tones aren't quite the same (obviously).
For the record I'm kind of a noob when it comes to modeling but I figured the JC would be close enough to a plain flat-response type amp to do the trick and so far I have no complaints.
Anyone else doing the same? I'm actually getting ready to redo my board and have been wondering if there's a better way to approach it.
That's what I have been doing for a while. Gave me more of the feeling of playing through a real guitar amp. However you loose a lot of control. FRFR can be tricky depending on the model. Have tried everything on the market I could get my hands around. Atomic CLR (nice) RCF NX10, NX12, NX15 (nice), Friedman, Matrix, Mission Gemini, JBL SRX, Xitone MB, Turbosound TFM122 (awesome) and many more. Best compromise are the QSC K8.2 for me because of the 110 degree spread. Set them to studio mode and you get great control, big sound and even with two cabs it is still a very small and lightweight system. The only thing that FRFR can't do is creating feedback like you can get from a real guitar cab, at least not a volume lower levels.Helix into fx return of tube amp into cabs.
To date, that's what I'm doing with my FM3. Clean, overdrive, and high gain. Running into a Quilter MicroPro 200 8. At practice volumes, even loud ones, it sounds great.I'm not looking for multiple sounds,
just 3 really good ones.
I don’t understand this..... out FRONT the sound guy should be able to mix you both at the same levels unless one of you has an amp on stage that is too loud (louder than FOH)......I spent a lot of time and money trying to bond with FRFR monitors and they never worked for me, I started with cheap monitors and I kept buying the latest and greatest until I ended up with a couple of CLR monitors. The turning point for me was when I was in a classic rock band and the other guitarist blew me away out front, he was playing a Fender amp and I was playing the Axe II through the CLR. My rig cost about 5 times what his did and he sounded better. In my next classic rock band, I was using either the AX8 or Kemper into a SS power amp and guitar cab, I had no problem keeping up with the other guitarist who was playing a tube amp, in fact, I think for the most part my rig sounded better than his out front.