I just sold my Line 6 HD500x. I'm building a pedal board that will incorporate a Looper/Switcher, as well as midi control for my amps and a TimeFactor pedal. Here is what I am thinking: Guitar --> Wah input (I don't want it in a loop) --> Looper input --> Booster pedal, Overdrive, Chorus (I like it in front of the amp), Phaser --> Looper Send --> Amp 1 input (Rivera K-Tre Reverb combo) --> Amp 2 input (Rivera R55, modded for more gain and boost mods) --> Amps 1 & 2 Send --> Looper Loop Returns --> Noise Gate in Loop 5 --> TC Flashback Delay in Loop 6 --> Looper Output --> Line 6 M9 (for Looping - the other kind of Looping - only)(not sure I will be able to afford the Pigtronix Looper just yet) --> Eventide TimeFactor (outside of Looper for delay tails) --> Amp Returns For amp control, I will use 2 Voodoo Lab Control Switchers via Midi output of the Looper. I would also use midi to control the presets on the TimeFactor. TC Electronic Flashback Delay would only be used for Ducking Delay on clean patches. This video makes it seem like I can do what I want with the GEC8 Live. The GEC8 Live looks like a Crocodile Tail clone with some added features...... https://www.youtube.com/watch?annot...&feature=iv&src_vid=UmdpjpvNzDw&v=XuQv0MzSALo Has anyone used both, or does anyone have any advice on either unit? I saw that the Decibel Eleven pedal allows delay trails, but all loops are Series and I would have to buy the Loop Extender to add the delay to my amps' Loops. Also, it's much deeper than the two units I'm interested in, and only has 4 preset buttons.