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Discussion in 'Effects, Pedals, Strings & Things' started by jm9239, Feb 25, 2013.
I hear a slight drop. Dealbreaker for me
There is a volume drop on certain settings...but my main "Gilmour" setting has no volume drop. The original had a volume drop, and the CE-2 does too. That's the rough part of analog units, unfortunately. The fact is, you'll be hard pushed to find a unit as well priced and close to the sound that's any better than the Mooer, no matter how horribly small or cheap it is. There's no doubting that it's a very good unit - the best I've tried. Prefered it to the Hartman because that sounded awful with a Muff, the Mooer sounds great.
I use the Rate 3:00 Color 10:00 Range Off Gilmour setting and I get the slightest of a drop but I remedy that by having my GE-7 following it to boost it so they're basically a package deal.
What I find even more noticeable is the actual leap in volume when it's turned off!
Interesting in that I was watching That Pedal Show, and at 20:08 in the following video...
...they specifically note that the Elec Lady doesn't suffer the volume drop which even other EM clones do.
I'm going to note that Tonebenders and several other dirt pedals which have issues with buffers wind up having other issues as well. I'm guessing that your volume drops all involve having the Ronno Bender, the Bass Fuzz or both active at the same time as the Elec Lady. Would that be correct?
Wow man...interesting. I had the Hartman for a minute. Lots of clock noise on that thing. I've gone through tons of flangers since and the only ones memorable was a 70s MXR 117 with the wall wart, The BYOC one I had custom made that had a volume/level knob included to match for unity (shouldn't have sold) and now the Mobius Flanger, which I think is excellent and cops a lot of the old style flanger sounds.
Yes, ERGExplorer, you are indeed correct on that!
However, though slightly less pronounced, there's also one with just the Xotic SP engaged - which most definitely does have a buffer in it...
That said, I think the Eleclady is a lovely sounding pedal - close enough to bring back happy times from the 1970s before I got sick of the crap build 'quality' of Electro-Harmonix pedals.
I always loved the sound but was constantly disappointed by the amount of time they spent in repair.
Actually, while watching the 'That Pedal Show' clip, I've realised what the issue is.
At 5 min 48 secs - it is the 'shelving off of a massive amount of bottom end' that is causing what I am perceiving as volume drop.
Basically the Ronno Bender and Bazz Fuzz (even more so) add an extra bit of grunt in the low end which is a large part of the push they give when switched in.
The Eleclady just gets rid of it.
OK. Now I know what it is, I'll just have to work around it
The first one I originally had did not, but the second one does have a slight drop. But it's nothing like your drop in volume.
the volume drop is mild at best. However, the real ones had a volume drop and this one is not as apparent and it sounds fantastic and is very quiet without the hiss and noise. Great little unit.
I was debating this or the MXR micro flanger, but I’m now leaning toward this one
Love the sound but too much of a drop for me on guitar.
I've since moved it to my bass board and it sounds great there,
the volume drop isn't as exaggerated thru a pbass vs a tele.
First impression, yes too much volume drop, could be a deal breaker. I’m going to run it a bit and see.
My Phase 95 sounds phenomenal next to it, and is getting ballpark Flanger tones for a live setting.
Using it on the fx loop of my Blackmore, it definitely has a slight volume drop/eq shift. Perceived volume is a bit weaker be the tone becomes sweeter at the same time. It will be less noticeable in the front of the amp, providing your tone is compressing.
I have 2 (elec lady and e-lady) both have no volume drop... guess Im lucky
Run very early in your chain... It is second after tuner with a buffer and no problems for me.
I used the donner version for a bit, and I did not hear any volume drop with it.
Running at 12 volts helps the drop. Also there are 2 trim pots inside. 1 controls the sweep and the other controls the output.
Just picked one of these up not to long ago and it has a massive volume drop. Especially, after using a Phase 90 or 95.