Discussion in 'Digital & Modeling Gear' started by ALOfYRSnfWhres, Oct 14, 2017.
I actually, genuinely worry about that mans mental health. This isn't normal behaviour. It doesn't look like he works for Mooer or is being compensated by them for what he's doing, and he doesn't even own a device himself. It's the strangest behaviour I've come across in a long time.
ALOfYRSnfWhres, mate... Thanks for all you've done, but I think this is enough. Take a break from doing this. This isn't a healthy way to spend your time. Use it to play your guitar or be with your family.
This would be great if it was an option for the GE200. One of the issues with Mooer is that unlike the other hardware listed (Fractal, Helix, etc.) is that Mooer is not available anywhere around here (I think the closest distributor is Ontario), so I can't even go into a guitar store to kick the tires like I can with the Helix. Also with the Helix I already know there's a ton of aftermarket support which makes me feel more comfortable with purchasing it. Time will tell with this unit.
I'm fine risking $100 on an effects pedal that I can't test before I buy, but with the GE200 running around $380 Canadian, I'd like to take it for a test drive first. As I see it, Mooer should look to have more distributors/resellers so that physical units are in the stores to look at/try out, or make the software available so you can feel better about making an online purchase.
Please shift the conversation back to the gear, not to the person. Thanks.
i will say it again, mooer ge200 sounds good in mix but raw demos... my god. Mooer have to make that update soon
****** sounding clips do not necessarily mean the unit sounds bad. So far i'm very happy with it and i find the effects and amp sims to be on a par with its competitors. Most clips i heard were just badly recorded and do the GE200 no justice. If you listen to my clip you will hear a doubled guitar (panned left and right) with NO post processing, listen to one channel and it's exactly how the GE200 produced it.
yes, most guitarrist are not in things like production or sound recording. Having said that, everything double tracked and panned sounds good but you must ask yoursellf, in what context will i use mooer ge200-? and a great portion of them will use for gig and live situations that's where mooer have to be tested, home recording guitarrist are a 30%
Its true, there is incentive for people to bash it. After all, if it sounds "as good" as what they spent more money on last year, they will feel like they got ripped off. So its easier to "hear what they want to hear", that its not as good, while to me it sounds perfectly serviceable. I need more tools (routing, control) from a MFX, but it looks like a valid option.
OTH, if I tried one (and I'm sure I never will) I might not like it. Who knows?
I think Boss and Mooer have kept the spirit of these devices, and price them for working musicians and students.
I've said it before, but with the rapid pace of hardware development and falling prices, last year's "holy grail" models will eventually run on a $5 microprocessor. This is why the Helix seems insanely overpriced to me.
It seems completely in the realm of possibility for Boss to deliver a "GT1000" processor with a color screen, a faster CPU (maybe the one used by Helix), and the same hardware and switching features it has now (programmable FX loops, audio interface, advanced switching) for $500. Its just a matter of waiting for the components to drop in price so they can sell the box at $500 as opposed to $1500. Give it a year.
Well that's also not necessarily true, a crappy double track is just twice a load of sh*t hahaha
I plan to use the GE200 for recording and in a live situation (FRFR) and so far i did well with rehearsels.
With most gigs i do, there's little time to set up your stuff and therefor i need something small and as portable as possible.
That being said it still has to sound decent of course but it does do a really nice job at that.
There's some good posts here, some meh posts here, some comparisons from Boss Helix, and Axe fanbois too. Some that seem to hate the product, but tune in to the topic anywhow.. and of which are most of the readers wishing to see the thread nuked.
Solution is simple. Don't reply if the product does not interest you. Company shill or not. There are many company shill type here of other products that post their desired product in other brand product threads. Which pollutes the thread topic more can be debated. Is it the OP clips, promotion? or the comments of "this sucks, my favorite product/brand is better!" ... to me, I can't decide really which is more unprofessional or whatever... is what it is. Every product thread has to be a my stuff is better than yours, vs thread, or comparison thread. lol
I love the range of gear that the Mooer competes with - GT-1, G5n, etc and if there are some (more) demos and reviews that show me that it will probably produce sounds I want to make, especially after an update or two, then I'll definitely consider adding it to my list... Below a Cerberus and perhaps a high-flyer like the Headrush or Helix LT. Right now I'm not convinced that I really need one but if it makes me drool later on, as I'm already sold on certain aspects of it, I might buy one.
I'm the kind of guy who wants to record every album with a different bit of gear so as to give each a unique flavour and an album made with a GE200 is not yet something I'd say is impossible... Time will tell.
Tried ignore and the thread disappears because the shill started it. Am going back to ignore which is too bad because other's opinions are useful.
Agree. I think helix took a chance with the helix pricepoint trying to feed off the axefx 2 pricing and it panned out for them. I was and still am a naysayer of the pricepoint and am a much less pushover then most here. Same goes with tesla cars. 100k for the model S is way overpriced to me but plenty of guys with$$ buy them so what do i know.
This whole 1k-1500k market to me is over inflated and i also think HEADRUSH just gambled and played the same game thinking its a 1k unit and some bit as usual while i may bit in 2 years in the used market at $400 max.
Used helix lt i have seen for 699.
For me as a home player now its all overkill and a prefer an amp in the room tone/unit: all in one. If i had the $$$ i would buy a carr mercury v before a axefx2 xl...That amp is killer but at 2k it too i feel is overpriced. Yea and i know some fanboi of helix/fractal/hr will chime in and say they can get that amps tone on their unit..Yes maybe somewhat but as i said i like an amp unit. Will line 6 ever release a helix stereo 2-12 amp? Doubtfull and if they did it wouyld be like 3k..lol. I still play my spidervalve mk2 2-12 combo and like it alot as well as my cybertwin mk2 (2-12) combo and like that too.
Price is perception. Helix is way overpriced. I liked the HD500 models. The helix just added a color screen and Gt100 hardware features (and probably) a moderately more powerful MCU. The Helix is just an evolution of the HD500, its not night and day difference, but it costs 3x as much. Boss can leverage all their GT100 development, add a color screen, newer processor, new software features (IRs), updated models, and still sell it for $500.
Axe FX was only priced that high because it was small builder, low volume.
Axe now is making them in china so maybe they arent so small anymore? I think boss is placed to take the market by storm in the 400-600.00 range of modelers for sure.Proving they can make a gt-1 thing for 199 was a great feat and is more inline of what the ge200 should be IMHO.
I dont want to drop 800-1500.00 on a modeling unit at this point and none in that range have wowed me. Now if they make an all in one 2-12 stereo combo thingy in the range i would consider it.
Your point about the amp is totally valid. If I can get a TC-50 head for $1500 and keep using my GT100 for 4cm fx, reamping, and extra models, there is NO WAY IN HELL I'd buy a Helix for $1500. (Not to mention all the good amps in the 300-1000 range.) Its not going to sound any better than a tube amp, and it will depreciate faster and more than anything else in your rig.
IMO, Line6/Helix got too big for it's britches. That's not to say it's bad, I like most of the clips I hear, but I think we are at a point where the youtube generation is making videos to show off their toys more than make music. A $1500 price tag is worthy of showing off.
Pretty much the reason why I got the GT-1 and also occasionally pickup pedals (if I can afford it). Although I do have tons of pedals & whatnot, it's still cool to have something different to mess around with. It's not that I don't think the GE200 isn't a good processor, just the opposite, for the money it's probably pretty good. I"m merely suggestion that people take it for what it is and not get their expectations too high. It's unreasonable to try and compare it to a Helix or Kemper because they're on a completely different level, technologically speaking.
I am going to get the GE200 again once it hits the shelves and I can work a deal on one. I am intrigued with the GE200 and new firmware coming out and IR (which I never tested stupid me)
Helix can sound good of course. For me the depth of it isnt needed for what i do. Sure...people will say at least its there if you ever want to use it and thats fine.I also think line 6 got too big for its britches. Same with yamaha and the thr100hd things. Not avail in gc to demo and way over priced with strange interface with so much knobs to move and no presets to remember them.
If i had $1000-1500 cash right now i would likely try to find a carr mercury v used..lol...
I see Line6's last flagship,the POD HD500X,under $200 on Craigslist.I saw a regular HD500 last week for $100.