More Effect On Tone?

Discussion in 'Guitars in General' started by ballbuffer, Feb 26, 2009.

Greatest Effect on TONE?

  1. Nitro finish

  2. Boutique

  3. NOS

  4. Repeated refinishing with high-end oils, such as tung oil, etc.

  5. Amount of relic-ing

  6. Old growth woods

  7. Flametop

  8. Price point

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  1. ballbuffer

    ballbuffer Member

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    Which of the following do you guys think has the greatest effect on overall tone? I'm looking to achieve tone for days here, and need a road map.
     
  2. Boris Bubbanov

    Boris Bubbanov Member

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    I think yer playing games with us, actually. The person building the "booteek" guitar might give me a tone monster; I'm pretty sure all the other components, in and of themselves in isolation, guarantee nothing although old wood can sound good. And I love a cheap guitar that sounds great even if it needs TLC before it plays all that silky.
     
  3. dirk_benedict

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    Heh...where is the option for "heavy, endless aftermarket customization"? No STOCK guitar has tone.
     
  4. '70 RS

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    You forgot 'length of tenon'.
     
  5. timmers

    timmers Supporting Member

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    True - only via endless customization does any guitar really become remotely valuable/usable in public.
     
  6. GeorgeSunset

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    Play the hell out of it?!? Serious though - especially if it is an acoustic. The more you play it, the “better” it will get – that of course is pretty subjective. Had a rosewood acoustic build for me – and after a couple of years constant playing it is a nice sounding one. Huge bass, nice mid and tremble if needed – love that thing! But would it ever have become what it is now without all that playing/wood movement/temperature chances/ ect ect ect?

    I don´t think so.

    And I don´t really care :-D

    I´m one of those who think that a guitars sound is the sum of all parts. Because you never would find 2 pieces of wood that are the same, you would never get the “same” guitar.
     
  7. FrankieSixxxgun

    FrankieSixxxgun Member

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    You didn't put, "Guitar Lessons," or, "Practice," up there for some reason...
     
  8. fullerplast

    fullerplast Senior Member

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    If that's what you are looking for, IMHO you need to look well beyond the list you've provided........

    Welcome to TGP, and spend some time here. Mapquest it ain't, but you'll see lots of recommended places to visit, along with lots of forks in the road that you'll have to figure on your own. :cool:
     
  9. studiojig

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    + a million
     
  10. buddastrat

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    I'd say fingers. But that's true to a point.

    You need "luck of the draw" on that ballot. You can have everything perfect on paper and it can sound like dick cheese.

    You don't find a good guitar... it finds you.
     
  11. bluegrif

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    Forced to choose between the items in the list, I'd have to go with old wood. But of course it's always going to come down to the individual instrument, never specifically just one factor. Actually, the player is always the most important factor in the tone recipe. Beyond that, it's the way a combination of factors come together that produces a great guitar.
     
  12. BIGGERSTAFF

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    It depends on-
    Quality of materials
    Quality of construction/design
    Quality of hardware

    and how they interact with each other.
     
  13. Voodoo Blues

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    At least your username is right.
     
  14. XKnight

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    None of those are going to guarantee great tone. The amp, pups and most importantly the player need to be high on your list though.
     
  15. Frusciantefan

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    :agree

    You know what they say, "tone is in your fingers."
     
  16. drbob1

    drbob1 Silver Supporting Member

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    As to the "playing it" thing. I really believed that until VG magazine was able to find sequential DM41s? from the 40s, one of which was heavily played and one a case queen. They apparently both sounded heavenly!

    The most important factors to sound good in my mind are: decent technique, decent guitar, great amp, decent cables, decent effects...
     
  17. Oakley

    Oakley Silver Supporting Member

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    Pickups have more affect on tone than any other single factor.

    Just my opinion.
     
  18. AaeCee

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    I think you're really on the right track, BB. Buy the highest priced, reliced, nitro finished, oil conditioned, old-growth boutique built guitar you can find, and you too will be rewarded with tone for days! I know I was. Matter of fact, I sucked until I had one like that!
     
  19. jeffwith1f

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    Greatest effect on tone is your hands.

    so go play already!
     
  20. rockstarjay

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    Excluding technique, lessons, and amps for the sake of argument, and starting with a baseline non-hobbled USA guitar (any shiny US fender or gibson) string gauge and material, pick type and weight, and setup are the most important. Then pickups.
    Most mods are performed to raise a non-US guitar to US standards. If you already have a USA guitar your moneys better spent on a tube amp or speakers. Got one than already rocks? Get a better stereo and stock up on CD's of your favorite players.
    If your listening to mp3's on computer speakers you, have NO baseline to evaluate tone, and are most likely severely limiting your sex life as well. Most questions on music and tone are answered on the recordings of the masters. And with that knowledge you will be able to rationalize all forms of boutique consumer frenzy.
    Just make sure the guitar is the color you really want.
     

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