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Most feature-filled/elaborate multi-fx unit?

DGChaos

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QUESTION: Right now, I own the Boss GT 100, and I love how I can tweak the effects, the effect quality, rearrange stomp boxes, and change almost any parameter in real time in a given patch with the Accel button or foot pedal. The amp models are all right except when it comes to higher gain stuff (I use IRs on my computer while recording anyway).

I'm pretty happy with my unit, but sometimes, I really wish it could do some more. Like add an extra parallel path over the two that are currently available, use two reverbs at a time (I have my reasons for this), and even use more effects.

I love how I can make so many different combinations of effects on VSTs or even the flexibility that comes with building effects on MATLAB! I don't mind spending as much time programming as playing.

So what are ALL the units out there that offer more in terms of FX chain routing as well as deeper FX editing? FX quality is very subjective, but if you can comment on quality as well, IN COMPARISON with something else, throw in a word!

Also, on a slightly related note, what are some multi-fx units that are due to be released soon?

Cheers!


SOLUTION: It appears the next step up from the Boss GT-100 is the Axe FX-II, which I won't be buying. Instead, I'll wait and see if I can add the Studio Devil's Amplifire to my loop. Or simply place have my PC connected to my Boss via USB for additional effects.
 
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speedyone

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Eventide and Axe I think are about it, that can do more than the Boss series.
 

lp_bruce

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Any device will have its limitations. In its class, the GT-100 is probably has as many or more features as the others when it comes to effects/routing/etc. But obviously there are things it can't do. You might have to move up in class (Axe2?).

Peace,
 

DGChaos

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Any device will have its limitations. In its class, the GT-100 is probably has as many or more features as the others when it comes to effects/routing/etc. But obviously there are things it can't do. You might have to move up in class (Axe2?).

Peace,

Ha ha. Yeah, maybe. It'll have to be the Axe after all else fails. And a kidney.

What about the IPad effects processor, does it have more flexible editing? Any idea about upcoming products this year?
 

AZG

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I've had most of the units on the market and the Axe-Fx II is in a class of its own if you want amp modeling and FX included.
 

DGChaos

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What about the IPad effects processor, does it have more flexible editing?
Just found out it's only a control unit.

I've had most of the units on the market and the Axe-Fx II is in a class of its own if you want amp modeling and FX included.
Hmm. Are there any new pedals coming out this year?

Anyway, since there's the Axe FX II, what are it's limits in terms of FX routing or the number of effects you can use?
 

Will Chen

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I've owned almost everything other than the Axe and 11r. The HD500 is close in terms of flexibility but lacks horsepower.
 

atquinn

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The Boss units have always been the tops when it comes to FX flexibility in floor units. Even if you go up an class, the GT100 is still more flexible than the Kemper or the 11R. So, its the Axe2 or nothing when it comes to greater flexibilty with amp modelling (I don't use any FX only units, so I couldn't say about those). In terms of limitations, it would probably be easier to ask what you want to do and take it from there. But basically, you can have 2 version of each effect (drive, delay, chorus, flanger, phaser, reverb, etc...) and you have up to 4 parallel paths to deal with. Now, in actuality, you probably aren't going to have enough CPU or space on the grid to implement 2 versions of each effect in a given patch, but you should be able to do anything you'd like to do.
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Austin
 

Pietro

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The HD 500x can do dual chains and dual reverbs, but I doubt you can use two amp models AND two verbs.

You say you don't want modeling, so I think that you might find that when you don't use modeling, you could use two delays, two verbs, and up to 4 other FX EASILY... and have two chains with whatever FX you want in either... AND you can have some of those FX be on BOTH chains if you want. I've used it that way actually.
 

speedyone

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To clarify my earlier post for the O.P., here's the order for "most bestest flexible fx processors" I can think of--

Eventide H8000 and Axe FXII (Amp modeling better in Axe, FX better in Eventide,
this according to recording guys I have spoken to)
Eventide Eclipse
Boss GT-100
HD500
All others

But you must let your needs and budget dictate your choice of course!
 

randombastage

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If I remember correctly you can download the AxeFx editor and play with the possibilities...which are deep and wide...without having an AxeFx unit.

But don't do it unless you want to find a new level of need for one because, in spite of the fact that everyone sees the AxeFx as an amp modeler, it is an effects modeler that happens to have stellar amp simulation built in.
 

jb70

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don't forget the vintage revolution pedal pro although it doesn't have reverb

http://www.vintage-revolution.com

right now, IMO there's nothing that comes close in it's price range to the axe fx II effects-wise. i'm hoping that changes soon. i think there's a pretty big market for a boutique/high end effects unit without any amp modeling
 

tomc3084

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If I remember correctly you can download the AxeFx editor and play with the possibilities...which are deep and wide...without having an AxeFx unit.

But don't do it unless you want to find a new level of need for one because, in spite of the fact that everyone sees the AxeFx as an amp modeler, it is an effects modeler that happens to have stellar amp simulation built in.
Not with the newer Axe edit, you can with the earlier versions though.
 

Rod

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For fx, what about an Axe fx standard..there is one 4 sale here for $850......thought about this one myself....
 

gumtown

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Roland VG-99 has two separate GT-10 style processor chains, plus the instrument modeling.
Otherwise two GT-100's in parallel might do the job.
 






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