Most Simplistic Looper for 100% Looping Newb

[iualum]

Love the idea of a looper, but I don't even know which end is up when it comes to them.

What is the VERY easiest one w/the shortest learning curve?

Maybe the Boomerang +? When will the 'Rang 2 be out, any info?

How about the EHX 16-Second Delay (they're supposed to soon have a new model that eliminates the 4-count problem, I think)?

Any opinions welcomed. Thanks.

 

[msp]

whats your budget?

if you want one just to try out and learn I would recomend a cheaper boss, akai, or used boomerang+ there are several delay pedals with looping options

then if it works out for you, you may want to invest in one with a bit more options and with higher sampling quality: gibson digital echoplex, electrix repeater (wich should be re-released in 2006 but they are already way past due on prior expected release dates) or even the newer boss rc-50 that is coming up next year

in my opinion the boomerang phrase sampler falls right inbetween these two groups.............it is verry usable and the sound quality is ok, but if you are serious about looping and do it frequently it eventually may not be enough, on the other hand the price isn't out of hand but it certainly is a big chunk of change.........your budget would be a deciding factor on this one, but you could probably skip buying it all together if you started with one that was cheaper and moved up to one that was more professional

check here for more information on looping gear
http://www.loopers-delight.com/loop.html

i currently use the boomerang + but would like to step up to a gibson echoplex this year (spendy though)

 

[dividedsky]

Having owned a few I would say the Boomerang. The layout is very user friendly.

 

[msp]

Having owned a few I would say the Boomerang. The layout is very user friendly.

yeah the way the rang works is nice............the little brother to the gibson echoplex (they interect very similarly)

I like the idea of the manecolooper and though my whole pedal board is nice analog gear....i'm not shure if i would want my looper to be (just for live use and quick changes)

 

[drolling]

the 'rang is surely nice;
however, it's nothing like the gibson edp, at all:
not in its feature-set, its sound, its user-interface:
pardon me for saying this with some authority.
the manecos sound really, really good, to me, and --- as shld be clear --- they offer selectable features (w/selectable price ranges), and are generally geared towards allowing the player further useable functionality, when the player wants that.
dt / spltrcl

AND there's finally a north american distributor for Maneco. They've been notoriously difficult to get in the past and apparently had no manuals, either.

Now I have to figure out which one to get..

 

[drolling]

I like the idea of the manecolooper and though my whole pedal board is nice analog gear....i'm not shure if i would want my looper to be (just for live use and quick changes)

They do sound very funky, but aren't they digital? Can't see how that kind of sampling would be possible to do any other way..

 

[jeak]

there are several delay pedals with looping options

Based on the thread title, I second this idea. I use a Boss DD-6 mainly for straight delay, but the loop function is a cool option I use on occasion. The loop time is only 5 seconds, but so is the learning curve. This should be enough to get your feet wet, to see if you like looping at all. I think some (all?) of the earlier Boss DDs have the hold function as well. Should be able to find a used one for around $100.

 

[msp]

the 'rang is surely nice;
however, it's nothing like the gibson edp, at all:
not in its feature-set, its sound, its user-interface:
pardon me for saying this with some authority.
the manecos sound really, really good, to me, and --- as shld be clear --- they offer selectable features (w/selectable price ranges), and are generally geared towards allowing the player further useable functionality, when the player wants that.
dt / spltrcl

I have played 2 different versions (one i was able to borrow for a week)

and the way the footswitches were setup.....it was verry similar to the boomerang in interface (for me at least but I haven't had the privilage of owning one yet and probably would agree with you if i could taylor one for myself) the sound quality was significantly better but
same basic features (just a whole lot of others as well)

record play/stop reverse and stack (allso there was an undo, multiply options and various other loops that could be recalled.....but i preaty much just used it like i use my rang because i wasn't about to download the manual and start changing my buddies echoplex settings)

there was no learning curve for the me the way it was set up (at least in this case very much like the rang)

 

[drezdin]

maneco loopers offer the best (and most variable) options, imo, at various prices.

http://manecolooper.tripod.com/

on the other hand:
if your looping direction might be more purely based on tight rhythmic useage & hardcore rhythmic editing-on-the-fly, ya definitely oughta check out spending the $$ on a gibson echoplex digital pro w/LooopIV software.

dt / spltrcl

Did you get your manecolooper?

 

[jeak]

You might also check out loopersdelight.com.

 

[iualum]

You might also check out loopersdelight.com.

Yeah, this site is tremendous.:AOK

 

[Moe45673]

seriously, I find the boss rc-20xl, while it has a ton of great features that take a few hours to learn, is also a plug and play pedal!

Simply turn it on, hit play, record your loop, hit play again for your loop to play (or hit stop to finish the loop but not have it playback). Done! No metronome, no saving, no reverse to worry about! but all that and more is there later on when you're ready for it