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My Echopark Guitars Nightmare

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Sociophile

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Are you saying any Echopark guitar review should mention that Echopark guitars are terrible and nobody should buy them?
Correct. I am directly observing that any EchoPark guitar review that attempts to review an EchoPark guitar should mention that EchoPark guitars are terrible, and nobody should buy them.

On the other hand, non-EchoPark guitar reviews don’t have to mention that EchoPark guitars are terrible, or that nobody should buy them. I mean, they could mention it, and maybe should mention it, but they don’t have to.

#echoparkguitarreview
#builtwrong
 

Halsey

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So if I am looking for an Echopark Guitar for sale and I want to buy an Echopark guitar because I saw Echopark Guitars on Instagram, I should first look for an Echopark Guitars review and read reviews of Echopark guitars in an established guitar forum for guitar reviews?

Would these Echopark Guitar reviews show me the lack of craftsmanship, poor quality, and horrendous playability of Echopark Guitar builds?

Would a review of Echopark Guitars also review their horrible customer service and how Echopark Guitars handles or fails to handle problems and quality issues? Just in case Echopark Guitars has problems, issues, and bad customer service.

Are there Echopark Guitar issues? Are there Echopark guitar problems?

Asking for a friend. Thank you.
 
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The bear

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I originally ordered to Southsider to play with Swing and Jazz with some bands. I thought it would be a dream guitar based on his ad copy. To start with it has no acoustic qualities associated with a semi-hollow and the top is stone-cold dead with no resonance. It is about a half-inch thick and and I am guessing makes up most of the weight of the guitar. It is hard to tell, though as the body is pretty clunky too.

You saw the photos, other than that it plays like a solid body and has none of the warmth and woody tone that you would hear when playing that type of guitar. The only thing semi-hollow about it is that Gabbe routed out some wood and cut out an f-hole. The "sound chambers" are neither cleaned nor tuned and do nothing to enhance the tone or resonance.

I called him out on it and his reply was that the guitar was designed with JH in mind and designed to play at loud, stage volumes. My reply was that there was absolutely nothing that mentioned this or even implied that the guitar is a loud volume rock guitar. He references the 1930s craftsmanship, grand piano tone, and using that design to take it into a modern setting. This was the best he had to offer.

I really think he simply does not know or have the skill to build this type of guitar. What I believe is that he thought by routing out some body wood and slapping a top on with an f-hole he could market it as a semi-hollow guitar. It will be impossible for him to replace anything as he simply is not capable. If had Terry McInturf ghost build for him could he market a product that fit his description but Gabbe would surely find some way to screw it up and make it useless. It is a dream guitar alright, it is just that this dream happens to be a nightmare.
It doesn't surprise me that he has no idea how to build a guitar like that(or any other guitars for that matter). Just get a Collings man, you won't be able to find a better semi hollow guitar. Leave the Gabbe guitars to the instagram hipsters and LA rocker wanna bee's.
#epicfail #echoparkfail #gabbe
 

2020jan08

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It doesn't surprise me that he has no idea how to build a guitar like that(or any other guitars for that matter). Just get a Collings man, you won't be able to find a better semi hollow guitar. Leave the Gabbe guitars to the instagram hipsters and LA rocker wanna bee's.
#epicfail #echoparkfail #gabbe
Not to derail, and I know Collings are great guitars, but shouldn't you write in your signature that you are an official Collings endorser?
 

The bear

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Not to derail, and I know Collings are great guitars, but shouldn't you write in your signature that you are an official Collings endorser?
I used to have it there but there wasn’t enough room when I added a link to my new album and book. If you follow the link to my book there’s a description on the back of the book in the bio listing that I am a Collings Artist. I thought most people knew already, seems like you did.
 

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I used to have it there but there wasn’t enough room when I added a link to my new album and book. If you follow the link to my book there’s a description on the back of the book in the bio listing that I am a Collings Artist. I thought most people knew already, seems like you did.
Which model guitar is that in your avatar?
 

lifeson1

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I used to have it there but there wasn’t enough room when I added a link to my new album and book. If you follow the link to my book there’s a description on the back of the book in the bio listing that I am a Collings Artist. I thought most people knew already, seems like you did.

Need to check out that book! Right after I pick up my newly setup I35 today! Love those guitars!
 

big mike

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I used to have it there but there wasn’t enough room when I added a link to my new album and book. If you follow the link to my book there’s a description on the back of the book in the bio listing that I am a Collings Artist. I thought most people knew already, seems like you did.
Need to disclose that when discussing them please. You really should have in your sig.
 

The bear

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Need to check out that book! Right after I pick up my newly setup I35 today! Love those guitars!
Do you use Matt at 30th street for your I-35? He has worked on my Fender's and G&L but so far I haven't had a Collings in. Let me know how it came out.
 
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I am going to add more photos to show any potential buyer what they can expect if they have a notion to buy an Echopark guitar:

I know this has been talked about to some extent but I just wanted to come back to the thickness of this top for a minute. This looks like the maple top on my LP when I take out a pickup and look at it from the side of the PU route. Has anyone, EVER, seen a semi-hollow with anywhere near this thick of a top?!
I'm not a builder, just a player, but on my old ES-355 I would estimate that my top was 1/4 inch......this looks like half an inch
 

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Guys as far as this repeated phrase over and over hashtag stuff, The issue between the customers and the company needs to be handled via private channels. TGP is not a kangaroo court to use as a vendetta springboard. Don't USE this forum for this sort of thing guys. Legit issues can be handled directly if there's an issue there are guidelines and rules to telling that story. Stalking companies on every thread with your grievance is not how to manage issues.

The keyword 'spamming' for lack of a better term is overboard, and drawing TGP into any arguments. Have the discussion that's fine. But things are being pushed too far with personal issues and instults, and what could be construed as cyber vendettas by guys without any skin in the game going off 3rd party info.

Keep to legit topic within the rules, and that's fine. For point of record, moderators are only responding to reports, and they're not coming from anyone I can see as connected to the company. We do not officially monitor nor approve specific postings unless reported.
 
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