My effects chain? Any good?

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  1. papersoul

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    Hi guys!

    I have never had the experts evaluate my pedalboard so I would love some feedback on what sucks and what could be improved in terms of tone sucking, punch, etc.

    I run guitar - Boss Tuner - Jacques Meistersinger Chorus - ISP Decimator - amp(Egnater) -> In loop - Boss GE7 for solos (Mote Allums modded) - TC Electronic Nova delay.

    I was thinking of an all in one unit to stop pedal dancing but I like quality tone and prefer analog and was considering an analog delay like the MXR Carbon Copy or Maxon AD-9 Pro.

    Thoughts????? Thanks!

    Rich
     
  2. semi-hollowbody

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    maybe put the chorus in the loop right before the delay and move the tuner to the end of the chain...thats what I would do
     
  3. Idiot Martyr

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    I'd put the noise gate in the effects loop, that's kinda the most logical place for it.
     
  4. papersoul

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    So the chorus in the loop before delay. I'll try it again but through it was better out front.
    Another person said the noise reduction in the loop as well. Finally...the tuner in the loop? I say that because at this point, everything is ending up in the loop! Can't the tuner just be out front???

    THANKS! Big help.
     
  5. papersoul

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    So you would put the tuner in the loop at the end? That is interesting. I always keep the tuner out of the loop. Or do you mean have the tuner last before the amp and have all else in the loop, chorus, delay and noise reduction.

    ISP says the noise reduction pedal should be after all the effects but I read it should be first so the effects have a clean signal to work with.
     
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    The way I think of noise suppression. It should be after effects with the exception of delay and reverb. So it doesn't cut them off.
     
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    Pretty sure he meant tuner at the end of the pedalboard chain. Awhile back there was a big thread on placement of the TU-2 thoughts/ideas.

    Moved mine to the end, I do prefer it there...
     
  8. papersoul

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    ISP says the noise supressor should be before the effects to give the effects a clean signal, but I see what you mean. So, the tuner would be the last thing before the amp.
     
  9. Catoogie

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    No, it's not.
     
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    guitar - Boss Tuner - Jacques Meistersinger Chorus - ISP Decimator - amp(Egnater) -> In loop - Boss GE7 for solos (Mote Allums modded) - TC Electronic Nova delay.


    Guitar -A/B Box - A to Amp Input, B to Tuner
    Effects Loop Send - Chorus - Noise Gate - Delay - EQ - Effects Loop Return

    dk
     
  11. Willemdaguide

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    Looks good to me and if it's sounds good to you.....
    anyway, I would get rid of the TU-2 in the signalpath. Maybe a AB box can help or has one of your other pedals a tuner out?
     
  12. papersoul

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    Thank you!! The A/B Box is tempting, are they expensive? I think the tuner does impact the tone a little. Do A/B boxes impact tone much? what is a good brand, DOD, Morley?

    Thanks all! This is helpful.

    I also have a wah I am adding.
     
  13. papersoul

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    What about the A/B box? What is a good one and do they effect tone as well?:confused:
     
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    Well, I'm going to go against the grain here, but here's how I'd go if I were you:

    Guitar -> Tuner -> Noise Gate -> Wah -> Amp

    Effects Send -> Chorus -> GE7 -> Delay -> Effects Return

    If you want the noise gate in the loop, I'd place it first in the loop (before chorus). Just MHO, YMMV, etc.

    But - use your own ears and decide what you like. For instance, there's no reason to use an A/B box (or spend the money on one) if you don't hear any difference (or a bad difference, anyway) with the tuner in your signal chain. I use a Boss tuner as well, first in my signal chain, and I don't have any problem whatsoever with it. A lot of guys will tell you you're crazy for putting the GE7 in your loop (the same old "tone sucker" argument) - I've used one in my effects loop as a solo boost and had no problem with it either (although I use a Morley Little Alligator these days). So, bottom line is you need to use your own ears and discover what works for you in the context of your music style, the type of amp you have, and the type of guitar you have (HB guitars vs. SC guitars, for instance).

    The point is to find your tone - enjoy the hunt!
     
  16. papersoul

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    Thanks, I really don;'t notice a big difference with the tuner. I have friends who do though. I also have friends who say the vintage MXR stuff sounds much better, then I

    Never heard of the Little Alligator!

    I think ISP recommends having the ISP noise rediction last but some say it should be first to give your effects a clean dignal.

    I like the Boss GE7 but my amp requires line level in the loop. Oh well.....maybe the MXR 6 band EQ.
     
  17. VCuomo

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    That's why I placed it where I did. :)
     
  18. papersoul

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    You mean you have it last out front but before the effects in the loop? Some still say it needs to be after the preamp to quite the high gain stage.
     

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