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If you're going to continue on this holier than thou track; you're going to need to provide audio evidence.
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Yeah I heard you. I hope your music is more interesting than your lame judgmental takes on what other people do with their time. No one ever cares what you don't like.No fan club, I'm afraid. Just a guy on a message board with an opinion. A strong one, but one I have held since I was 19 and one that's worked for me as I have played music. It's also the one thing I will not compromise about in bands. I've played the odd cover or three, sure, for our singer. But it's got to be 99% original music we make together.
It's fine it's not everyone's MO, but I'd stop playing if I could only play other people's songs.
Well said, sir!It wouldn't be TGP if every thread didn't devolve into a covers v. originals argument.
I played the cover scene. I don't miss the grind of load in, set up, etc., but I had a blast most of the time and the extra money was nice. And I still enjoy hearing a great cover band.
Most importantly, I don't . . . and don't think anyone else should . . . look down on musicians who put themselves out there to play music, regardless of whether they wrote it or not. The more music in the world, the better place it is to live.
I don't share my stuff anymore. The band is done so I figured why bother.Yeah I heard you. I hope your music is more interesting than your lame judgmental takes on what other people do with their time. No one ever cares what you don't like.
I don't see where you share your stuff--can you direct?
That says everything anyone needs to knowI don't share my stuff
I don't feel they are, though it is a semantic argument I will expand on.
That word you keep using, I don't think it means what you think it means. Try 'artist' instead. This word also requires additional qualifiers, per context, but nonetheless would be considerably less far afield for the description you're attempting to assign to 'musician'.I always felt being a musician was not something you could call yourself. A true musician, like a Dylan, Springsteen, Young, etc. etc. and so on, is just born to create. It's like an urge they just can't stifle. MUSICIAN is like the highest title you can achieve when you have made music that means something.
I've just always been very private. I've written two books as well but I don't share them. Our albums are on iTunes and my books are on Amazon, Barnes and Noble, etc., but I never share them, except with a few members who I have gotten to know.That says everything anyone needs to know
I freely admit it's subjective, arbitrary, and silly on my end to even attempt to define any of it. I just don't take it as personally or emotionally as some here seem to. Even my wife thinks I am pretentious and elitist, which I can't argue.That word you keep using, I don't think it means what you think it means. Try 'artist' instead. This word also requires additional qualifiers, per context, but nonetheless would be considerably less far afield for the description you're attempting to assign to 'musician'.
See also: 'off-topic tangent'
That's expected but silly to me. It's just my opinion. I don't particularly care if anyone agrees, nor am I going to start compiling evidence on my end to "win" an internet fight.If you're going to continue on this holier than thou track; you're going to need to provide audio evidence.
So what? That doesn't change the fact that your metrics relegate them to the status of "non-musician". You should either reframe your metrics, or acknowledge that musicians often play music not their own compositions.Classical music was written to be covered.
You're overthinking it.So what? That doesn't change the fact that your metrics relegate them to the status of "non-musician". You should either reframe your metrics, or acknowledge that musicians often play music not their own compositions.
This is special pleading, nothing more. You wish to carve out your own exception to your own standard with no justification other than "But they're supposed to play covers in an orchestra!"
Never mind the fact that there are plenty of musicians in cover bands who play, write, and flog originals as well, using the cover band as a means of putting food on the table while they work to monetize their originals. The two approaches aren't mutually exclusive, as you're attempting to portray here.
Elitism says more about the speaker than it does about the categories they define, in most cases.
I'm taking you at face-value. If you think I'm "overthinking" that, seems like that's your own judgement on your own opinion -- namely, that's it's unworthy of much thought. Got it.You're overthinking it.
I'm loathe to call "troll!" but this is a classic troll response: "I got a rise out of you!"I also find it funny you don't care so much you've responded to me multiple times. I guess you do care!
I just don't like cover bands. It's not something I feel is worthy of much thought because many people do and it's not a big deal to me.I'm taking you at face-value. If you think I'm "overthinking" that, seems like that's your own judgement on your own opinion -- namely, that's it's unworthy of much thought. Got it.
I don't troll. I mean every word I type. Whether that's good or bad is probably in the eye of the reader.I'm loathe to call "troll!" but this is a classic troll response: "I got a rise out of you!"
I forgot to add I think artist IS the word I was looking for.That word you keep using, I don't think it means what you think it means. Try 'artist' instead. This word also requires additional qualifiers, per context, but nonetheless would be considerably less far afield for the description you're attempting to assign to 'musician'.
See also: 'off-topic tangent'