The mystery amp thing got me thinking....
Couple of weeks wiring an amp, covering it with goo... $ 6,000
Couple of months of pain staking, hand built detail... $ 4,000
No, that is not a mirror top, that is hand rubbed aluminum!
More labor intensive. Lots of switching and options mostly! You CAN get a D'Lite from Brownote. It's a very cool D**ble style amp with less bells and whistles. More affordable too!sooo... guitar players are getting ripped off.
I have always wondered though. Why do D*mble clones seem to be the most expensive clone amps ever? Just because the originals are expensive? Surely there has to be a better reason than that...
What is the magic "expensive dust" that goes into a high-end D*mble that doesn't go into a boutique Fender or Marshall clone?
P.S. I am not basing this on any facts or figures, just something I think i've noticed, and I could be wrong.
Very nice Tag, but does it really take something special for that style? It sounds rather ordinary to me. Seems like a guy could use just about anything for that. And since we can't even see the amp in that vid it might be just about anything. It probably just shows my ignorance of jazz, and no knock on your playing, but I'm not impressed with the tone.
Tag, sorry friend, I don't think your Bruno would beat that amp with a turntable/tape deck/reciever plugged into it.Inside of my Bruno. Good enogh for me, and the tone has smoked EVERY boutique and production amp I have put it up against. Bring on ANY amp! :BEER
Well, that's kind of my question. If that hi fi amp costs $4k and has all those expensive parts in it, why do guitar amps cost $6k with cheap parts? That was what the "ripoff" question (which was totally a joke, BTW) was referring to.Audio and guitar amps are two totaly different creatures when it comes to what is considered "High end".
A high end output transformer for a guitar amp might cost $200, but a high end audio OT can run $1500 and up.
A high end filter cap for a guitar cost about $7, a high end capacitor for a high end audio amp can cost $100 each or more.
If your thinking why aren't high end guitar amp builders offering those kind of options, well I'm sure a few have done some prototyping with high end audio parts and found out that for musical instrument amps, low end is actully high end.
Amps with Xicon carbon film resistors sound as good as amps with more expensive resistors. And are in a lot of high dollar amps.
Are the guitarist being ripped off? Definitely not.
Bottom line, an amp with a good design will sound good, no matter the cost of the parts (and actually some cheaper part sound better if not just as good).
As far as Dumble clones, they are more exspensive because they are labor intensive. I would prefer a high end pcb type if that's what I was looking for.
That hifi amp in the first post had $4000 in parts in it plus 4 months of labor, the retail price on an equivalent amp could top $20,000.Well, that's kind of my question. If that hi fi amp costs $4k and has all those expensive parts in it, why do guitar amps cost $6k with cheap parts?
I'm not really sure if that is common knowledge. Many people I speak to are surprised to hear that.Isn't that pretty much common knowledge at this point? Even my wife knows that.
In all seriousness, CDs weren't designed with fidelity as the main goal. IIRC, they wanted to be able to fit Beethoven's 9th symphony uninterrupted on a disc medium that would fit in a shirt pocket. Wasn't that Philips/Sony's design goal?