Nad: Ceriatone Ots20 - Gut Shots Added

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  1. Billy_B

    Billy_B Silver Supporting Member

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    Can someone explain the difference between line level and instrument level? I always thought they were pretty much the same.
     
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    TheWayfarer84 Silver Supporting Member

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    Throw a G12-65 or WGS12L into a 1x12 and it will really shine.
     
  3. Kilometers Davis

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    From reverb:

    “Line level is the standard signal strength at which most audio equipment is designed to operate. Lower-level microphone and instrument signals must be brought up to line level with a preamp before interfacing with most equipment. These line level signals are then further amplified to drive speakers and headphones for playback. There are two common standards for line level: +4dBV for professional audio equipment and -10dBu for consumer-level products.”
     
  4. Billy_B

    Billy_B Silver Supporting Member

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    @Kilometers Davis Thanks! I think by setting the last box in the loop buffered is why
    the OTS isn't having issues.
     
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    Love my OTS20. Built a Klein for it and was worth doing...more controls and options. I used an old C12N and built a cab...sounds very sweet.
     
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    Out of curiosity I did a little digging (not much) and it appears as though some or maybe most strymon pedals can hang in a line level loop depending on the amp and how it’s setup. Now, if you were to use something like a boss pedal then you might see why people tend to opt for the kleins and C’s. I haven’t done it but supposedly it’s not a whole lot of fun.
     
  7. Billy_B

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    Have read pretty much the same thing. The Strymon stuff is just in the loop. I have analog pedals (4) up front and using a Mesa High Wire. The difference if I don't use it is pretty black and white. I'll never be without the MBHW again.

    The amp:
    - Nik had told me the head ran cool. Easily the coolest of the five I've messed with recently.
    - Think I'm starting to understand the control interaction. The EQ is more like a 3 band gain boost and the smallest adjustment there can really have a big impact.
    - Sooooo touch sensitive. I keep feeling like I'm playing in slow motion cause I'm stopping to listen to everything so much!
     
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  8. Billy_B

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    The first three sessions I was intimidated by the control layout and how complex it is - it really is at first trying to get the right gain/clean balance.
    After this morning I'm wishing my other amps had the same level of control!
     
  9. RayBarbeeMusic

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    The 20 is one of my favorite sounding/feeling d clones, at any price. Factor in the price and.....I don't even have a good analogy.
     
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    Sorry for the size but I figure it's OK when it's the guts. :) The word immaculate comes to mind.

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    Okay, OTS 20 users... Can the 20 still do country clean headroom at gigging levels (not crazy loud, but still drums, vocals, bass)? Would probably be using a single-12 cabinet. Could use a closed-back 2x12 if that would be better.
     
  12. Billy_B

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    @guitarmook I don't get anywhere near gigging volumes so I can't help.

    10 days in and this amp is remarkable. I pretty much have the controls down
    to dial in what I what at any given time. It's got a pretty wide sweet spot that's
    fun to play around in so fiddling is rewarded. Not going to describe the tones
    except to say it's a very inspirational amp to play. So nuanced and touch sensitive
    and captures the best of every guitar.

    Extreme thanks to Nik and all at Ceriatone! I love this amplifier.
     
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    Depends on the drummer and your speaker efficiency. The speakers I have right now aren’t very efficient and it sounds to me like it’ll be gritty at that point with what I’m using. Now, if I had an EVM12L or two that might not be the case. The headroom from what I can tell is similar to that of a deluxe reverb with a similar output handling / efficiency speaker.
     
  14. guitarmook

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    Thanks, KD... moved from DR to Vibrolux because it just wasn't quite sharp enough. I think the answer is "you'll have to play it..." and from there, unless a miracle occurs and I find one locally, it's probably easier to find a 50-watt OTS and just KNOW that it will handle clean okay. -
     
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    I guess I should clarify a little, the DR I’m specifically comparing is the 68 CDR which I think breaks up a little earlier than the average unmolested vintage or reissue. I think it’s really going to come down to who’s drumming. As long as they aren’t too heavy handed, you should be fine with a high efficiency 2x12.

    Yeah man, 20ish watts really rides that cusp of “holy ****, is this going to work?!?!”
     
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  16. guitarmook

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    I owned and played (for a while) an original early 70s, pre-boost silverface deluxe. With a Weber California speaker. Not quite there. And I don't think it's the character of 6V6s vs. 6L6s, because I had (and loved) a ToneKing w/ 4 6V6s that had fantastic cleans. I think 20-ish watts is just not quite enough headroom for the sound in my head.
     
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    Yeah. I've been inside quite a few C tones and now own a small collection of them......Nik and his folks pay the F attention.
     
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