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NAD: Roland Blues Cube Stage

bluescube

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Just got an open box BC Stage from MF for $558 with 10% sale.

I have now reclaimed my TGP username :eek:

At first I wasn't used to Tweed tone after having a Laney VC15 British voiced amp (it's going bad, motorboating noises).

However, I am now coming around to that classic Bassman tone. The clean channel really breaks up early and you get those classic blues/rock tones. My neck P90 on my G&L Fallout really shines. I find I like the tone button engaged for a brighter cutting tone. I am also boosting the treble up to about 2:00 and the bass down to 11:00. The reverb is a nice adder to over a standard bassman. My old Blues Cube 30 2x10 I had years ago did not have reverb either. I couldn't stop playing bluesy riffs for about an hour after getting the tone dialed in. It's hard to believe it's digital. Doesn't feel it. I also like there is NO programming, presets or other fiddly controls or menus.

In comparison to a Fender Super Champ X2 I had a while back, the tweed tones on the Fender are fake sounding compared to the Roland even though the Fender had a tube power amp section. The X2 did excel at the clean blackface channel though. I do miss that sparkly glassy blackface clean as compared to the grittier more mids tweed.

The Crunch channel is good and with the gain boost I can get that JTM45 style sound going on. It's also nice that the bass notes don't flub out either. I hated that on a Fender Blues Junior. The BJ overdrive would fart and flub out on bass notes. Yuk. I do miss the smoother overdrive of the Laney VC15 though.

I'll have to try my Caline Orange Burst overdrive soon too.

All in all, Roland really seems to have nailed a great digital replica of a Bassman circuit. I may now have to add a tone capsule or two. The Voxy NY Blues would be cool to try as well as the UBTC which would get me that Super Reverb tone. Perhaps the Robben Ford Dumble?
 

bluescube

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Some may say the Blues Cubes are overpriced for Solid State, but if I wanted a Fender Bassman I'd be spending $1500. The BC is half the price at retail.
 

bluescube

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I'd say the crunch can do a JTM45 to almost a Super Lead. There is a "boost" button that adds some more gain and mids.

 

bluescube

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No, but from my memory years ago with a Cube 30, no comparison. The BC just feels real and not fake.
 

Waxhead

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Have you ever compared a Blues Cube to a regular Cube's black panel and tweed models?
ahh I have directly compared these 2 new Blues Cubes to the old JC-40, JC-120, Cube 60 and Cube 80.
My honest opinion is they sound no better, just a little different.
JC-120 cleans and reverb are better imo.

Now people who love new Roland things will find this inconvenient or may not agree but..............
of all the reviews I've seen on TPG so far no-one is comparing these new Blues Cubes to the old Roland amps.
And imo that's the most important issue.
Why pay double the price for something that's no better than old products that have been around for decades :)
 
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bluescube

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Well, I think the BC is the BEST digital amp out there cauze I swore I'd not back to digital
 

Mr. Kite

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I have a Roland Jc-77 in almost perfect condition and a blues cube artist. The Jc-77 is Robert plant pictures at eleven. Crisp and very immediate. The blues cube artist is so many excellent sounds, capable of 100% more versatility than the old stuff. The blues cube artist is the amp I've been looking for for years. Killer, killer sounds.
 

snow and steel

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@adrianb I have a tone of audio samples on my soundcloud - all of various gain levels on both the BC 'hot' and 'artist', if you wan to know gain levels.

I gig mine constantly and get plenty of compliments. Played it not too long ago along side a handwired 1962 "bluesbreaker" by a signed artist - no one complained.

Waxhead makes a point of coming into EVERY Bluescube thread to let you know that, like tag, He knows tone, and he hates these.
 

daacrusher2001

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I've only tried the Artist model but thought it was a very good sounding amp. I was wondering the the Stage would hold up at gig levels ?
 

BrianNZ

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Still waiting, and waiting... for mine. Slow supply here it seems. Have plans to add an extension 112 cab to my combo.

Congrats on the new amp. Glad it's working out so well for you.

This is a very good demo:

 
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bluescube

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IT was a hard choice between the BC and the Katana. I could have saved a lot of $$$ with Katana, but in the end the kat had too many options and I didn't want to get lost in fiddling with settings all day. What I love about the BC is that it looks and feels like a "real" amp. No menus, no LCD display, no presets, no offline editor, etc. Just a great tweed amp style amp at 50% the cost of a Fender Bassman reissue amp.

Since the BC and Katana are both Tube Logic based, the BC does have DSP processing along with analog circuits as well is my best guess. I know Jeff S of BOSS said the power amp section on the BC is discrete and the Katana is IC.
 

bluescube

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Still waiting, and waiting... for mine. Slow supply here it seems. Have plans to add an extension 112 cab to my combo.

Congrats on the new amp. Glad it's working out so well for you.

This is a very good demo:


That's the best demo video yet
 

danbond

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it isn't digital. It is analog SS.
They dodge around this a lot in the advertising, but I assure you digital amp in terms of how it generates the tone, reberb, gain etc.

"The Tube Logic design physically amplifies the analog discrete circuit with characteristics produced by DSP circuits. Blues Cube’s basic sound quality is built upon the physical preamp and power amp. The analog discrete circuit and DSP circuit working together produce a very advanced path to tone."
 

guitarman3001

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IT was a hard choice between the BC and the Katana. I could have saved a lot of $$$ with Katana, but in the end the kat had too many options and I didn't want to get lost in fiddling with settings all day. What I love about the BC is that it looks and feels like a "real" amp. No menus, no LCD display, no presets, no offline editor, etc. Just a great tweed amp style amp at 50% the cost of a Fender Bassman reissue amp.

Since the BC and Katana are both Tube Logic based, the BC does have DSP processing along with analog circuits as well is my best guess. I know Jeff S of BOSS said the power amp section on the BC is discrete and the Katana is IC.
Yep, I have almost no interest in the Katana because it reminds me too much of my old Line 6 Spiders. I prefer simple amps. The BCA is very well designed in that regard.
 






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