You can see my fretless Bee Bass in my avatar... I'd be happy to play nothing but that bass... ever... it simply works for me. But... I have lost a couple of gigs because it doesn't look like a Fender... and even more because it doesn't have any speed bumps on the fingerboard. So, I decided to pick up a fretted Fender like bass. I tried a bunch of MIM Fenders and a couple of Squiers. Some were quite nice but none had exactly what I wanted. Add a case or bag and the price got upwards of $500 for many. Upgrade anything and you certainly were there even on used ones. None inspired me that much. Enter the Sire. The word on the web is that they are either "the equal of basses 3-5 X's their price" or "really good to unbeatable at their price point." The complaints I read about them were that they are heavy (as are all of the Fenders I tried), that the hardware is not the best (ditto for the Fenders in this price range), and that the truss rods are easily stripped. The praises were that the pre-amp is killer, they play very nicely, sound above their price point, and that fit and finish is really great. I decided to order one. It is heavy... but not as heavy as many of the Fenders I played. The hardware isn't the best but it seems to work and the bridge is more massive than those that come on similar Fenders. The pickups sound good. The pre-amp is killer. It plays well. And it sounds good. I can hear Marcus Miller in there (if only he would play a little bit). Harmonics ring and the bass feels alive as much as one this heavy can be. Set up and intonation are very good out of the box. Fit and finish is good but it feels like the price point to me. I really dislike block inlays in a fingerboard and these look a little cheesy. So... in passive mode it is probably the equal of a MIM and certainly of a Squier. Add the pre-amp and it is in another category. All in all it is a very cool bass especially at the price point and probably at a somewhat higher one. It certainly won't replace my Bee... and if I could justify the outlay, I would have purchased a fretted Bee. As it is, if someone demands that I play a fretted "Fender," I'll feel quite good playing this one. Sorry there is no photo. I haven't found a third party hosting service to replace photobucket yet. The bass really does exist and is the sunburst Alder/rosewood version of a 4 string.