Need Burstbucker replacements

dzeitlin

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I'm looking for something that will be darker, but not by much, and less harsh. A little more output wouldn't be a bad thing either. Any reccomendations?
 

mccreadyisgod

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I'd say the Classic '57. It's very similar to the Burstbucker (the Burstbucker is in essence a RI of the '57/59) but with the nickel covers, it's a bit darker and smoother sounding.

There are a lot of manufacturers out there with PAF-type pickups, it's hard to go wrong with any of them. Are your pickups covered, or exposed-coil?
 

BOZ

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I am looking to replace my burstbuckers and im going to go with the Rio Grande BBQ at the bridge and the Texas at the neck..
 

Gary Ladd

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Originally posted by BOZ
I am looking to replace my burstbuckers and im going to go with the Rio Grande BBQ at the bridge and the Texas at the neck..
Just to let you know, the Tx/BBQ set is a LOT darker than Gibby BBs...

Great in a bright guitar, awful in a warm-to-dark guitar.

Personally I wouldn't use them except on guitars with maple necks ;)

Actually, most of the Rio Grande stuff was designed with Fender configuration in mind, I think it blows on most everything else...
 

dzeitlin

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I took a look at the WCR's but that is more than I want to spend. I'm seriously thinking about the Rio Texas BBQ set. Can anyone compare the Rio BBQ to a Duncan so I can get a reference as to how dark it is? Also, I spent all weekend at the Duncan site listening to soundclips, and while they are very helpful, I have no idea what the difference will be from the Burstbuckers. I like the 59s, but have a feeling they will be as bright as the Burstbuckers.
 

dzeitlin

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Originally posted by BOZ
Did you checkout the soundclips on the Rio Grande site?
Yes, but theree are no clean tones up there. I need the pup to sound good clean and dirty. Also, while it does give you a good idea of the tone, it doesn't give me a good idea of what it will sound like compared to anything else.
 

ABKB

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Should take a look at High Order pups. Jeff will build them to spec and if you do a search on this board I dont think you will find 1 bad thing said about em. I am currently waiting for mine :D
 

ungarn

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Rio Texas/BBQ work fine in my Les Paul Standard...Duncan makes great pickups too though...both are alot of bang for the buck.

Fralin, WCR, others are a little more but may capture that elusive tone.

My advice would be to call Lindy Fralin if his humbuckers are not out of price range.

Good luck!
 

58relic

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According to your signature you own some nice and expensive gear.

I replaced the burstbuckers in my 58 RI with Wagner Crossroads. I can assure you, they made a major improvement! And I really didn't think these burstbuckers suck. (ok, but not that great) Bought them new second hand and saved a few bucks. Are they worth their price? If I knew they sounded so good, I'd order them in a minute, absolutely!
 

AaeCee

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Originally posted by Gary Ladd
Just to let you know, the Tx/BBQ set is a LOT darker than Gibby BBs...

Great in a bright guitar, awful in a warm-to-dark guitar.

Personally I wouldn't use them except on guitars with maple necks ;)

Actually, most of the Rio Grande stuff was designed with Fender configuration in mind, I think it blows on most everything else...
Hate to say it, but I agree. My pick is Peter Florance Voodoos. They really capture the vintage vibe, and provide a very rich tone with those great overtones. He hand winds 'em the way they used to.
 

paintguy

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If cost is an issue,

maybe Highorder pups or possibly a Duncan Custom 5.
in the bridge, and a alnico pro 2 in the neck.

Larry
 
M

mitch

Get some older PAT # pups, I put some in my TRIGGS and it SCREAMS!!!
 

Bloozcat

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Originally posted by ABKB
Should take a look at High Order pups. Jeff will build them to spec and if you do a search on this board I dont think you will find 1 bad thing said about em. I am currently waiting for mine :D
Another vote for Highorders. I replaced a set of Rio BBQ/Genuine Texas with Jeff's A2's. The Rios were too dark for my liking. The Highorders were a huge improvement, with greater clarity and note definition, and when pushed they sound like a good old set of 50's/early 60's Gibsons. They just have a sweet singing sustain and crunch that nails the classic humbucker tone IMO.

I'm going to order another set for a semi-hollow soon. I may try the A3's for that one.
 

ABKB

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Originally posted by Bloozcat
Another vote for Highorders. I replaced a set of Rio BBQ/Genuine Texas with Jeff's A2's. The Rios were too dark for my liking. The Highorders were a huge improvement, with greater clarity and note definition, and when pushed they sound like a good old set of 50's/early 60's Gibsons. They just have a sweet singing sustain and crunch that nails the classic humbucker tone IMO.

I'm going to order another set for a semi-hollow soon. I may try the A3's for that one.
I have a A-3 and a A-5 coming for my semi-hollow. I want the A-5 bite in the bridge and I am curious how the A3 will sound.
 




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