Neil Schon Signature Les Paul

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  1. Mark C

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    PRS doesn't seem to have any problems and they use a full floating trem. It may not lock, but you can whack away on it just as hard as you would a floyd rose.
     
  2. John Hurtt

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    Most factory Floyds did come with maple necks. However, most were really strat types which usually had maple bolt-on's anyway. I have no idea if mahogany can take the stress or not.

    Here's a really poor pic of the Goldtop Schon at NAMM.

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  3. Joe

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    I think PRSs attract a different customer, and truth is, unless someone here is a PRS employee, we have no idea what problems they face warranty wise.

    Jol Dantzig, the president of Hamer USA told me that even their three piece stressed neck system can not withstand Floyd abuse long and this is why all the Archtop Customs they made w/ Floyds had maple necks. Hamer has also made other guitars that normally have a mahogany neck and made the neck out of maple when a Floyd was part of the order. Many Les Pauls got routed in the day and died as a result of Floyd Rose abuse, or so I have been told.

    Given Gibson's reluctance to fix anything under warranty, I suspect this could become a problem, but of course YMMV and good luck with all that.
     
  4. Mark C

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    I no longer play a PRS, mainly because I needed cash fast and had to sell my last one, but I used a 90 CU24 as my number one guitar for about 7 years and I tortured the whammy on that thing frequently, and honestly, the neck never moved except for climate changes. I had to adjust the truss rod one way in the winter and back again when it warmed up, about a quarter turn. Maybe it's more of a problem with a steeper headstock angle?
     
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    Joe-

    Interesting train of thought. Neal has some other PRSi with Floyds, some that he has had for 10 years or more, and I have seen no problems what so ever with the necks. Ironically, I actually owned a Hamer (one made when they were still in Illinios) that had a mahogany neck and a Floyd, never had any problems with that one either.

    I can tell everyone that we have had two of the Gibson prototypes that have been played to death for almost 2 years now with no ill effects. In my experience, if problems are going to occur, they will usually happen in the first 12 months.

    Scott A.
     
  6. Chiba

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    I've worked on a LOT of PRS guitars with trems and never seen one with a "bad" neck due to whammy use/abuse. I have one customer that absolutely beats the ever-loving crap out of his '88 (not a typo) Custom - and the guy's got the most abrasive sweat to boot - and I don't think I've ever adjusted his truss rod more than a half-turn in either direction - and he's been bringing me the guitar for maintenance for almost 5 years now. In that same time, I've replaced his entire trem once and the saddles 3 times (though since I made him switch to GraphTech, no more rust!).

    I don't see any reason why a Gibson coming out of the Custom Shop with a trem would be any different than a PRS. Really.

    Like you said, YMMV and all that.

    --chiba
     
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    Has anyone else had any first hand experience with the Neal Schon Les Paul? I'd LOVE to take one for a test drive but they seem to be impossible to find.
     
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    I spoke with someone who owns one, he says the guitar weighs a little bit, but it sounds amazing. And he's way into vintage guitars.
     
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    I'm looking to buy a black one. If anyone has one or sees one, please give me a shout. jayspence at sbcglobal dot net.
     
  13. Rock Johnson

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    I have a Vandenberg Custom Quilt that acts as my "LP with a Floyd." It's mahogany body / maple cap, mahogany neck, rosewood fingerboard, etc., and a floyd on it. I've had it since '97, no problems with it at all. If they'd had this model of LP out back then, I woulda bought that instead.

    I really like this model. THIS is the direction Henry needs to go -- start with the old ideas, but innovate on them. Oh, and drop the prices out of the stratosphere.
     
  14. LTE

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    Loads of cool info. So when is the stoptail version due? Also, I really like the diamond inlay in the headstock. Did Neil or Gibson come up with it (or who did if neither)?
     
  15. jazzandmetal?

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    my friends dad owns one...it is really heavy...sounds okay though...it is also really expensive.
     
  16. Crunchyriff

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    My 88 Cu 24 has never had one problem with my trem as far as negative impact on the neck itself, None whatsoever. And I've had it since it left the factory in May 1988.
     

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