New Badger 30 - Please recommend a good OD for early VH tones.

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  1. brett336

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    Greetings,

    I have been enjoying my new Badger 30 and I am looking for some recommendations on a good OD pedal. I am thinking about something that can get me close to the early Van Halen tones - but I am open to other recommendations.

    I really like the sound of the amp and I would not want to change it too much. I would just like to get more of it.

    I have seen the youTube video and heard the OD pedal demo. The pedal that I liked the most was the Lovepedal - but I am not sure I could get the VH tone out of that pedal.

    There are just so many pedals out there when it comes to OD's - any direction would be appriciated!

    Much thanks!

    BA
     
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    The Wampler Pinnacle absolutely nails it. Plenty of sound samples to check out on Wamplers site. Great pedal.
     
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    Box o' Metal!

    EL84 amps seem to be a little picky when it comes to OD. those power tubes seem to handle midrange differently. at any rate, the BoM does a great job for me in the higher gain department. lots of gain on tap, and its pretty easy to get that EVH thing going.
     
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    Does the badger 30 not have enough gain on tap to do early VH without a pedal? I've never really thought of VH's early tones as being high gain. I would have thought the badger could do this on its on.

    The reason I'm asking this is because I'm thinking of a Badger 30 for myself and I'm trying to get a handle on exactly what it will and won't do.
     
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    Cmatmods Brownie. One of the best BSIAB pedals you'll ever find.
     
  6. brett336

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    I have been playing around with the Badger 30 and it seems to have enough gain on tap - But I would not call it a high gain amp.

    I think that I need to get to a setting where I can get the speaker moving some air and still have the power scaling still engaged to get some clipping out of the power tubes. That is what I identify as the early VH tone.

    I really wanted a good pedal to play around with some very low volume tones. Plus, I like to set the amp up more on the semi-clean side of things and then use a pedel to get some different textures out of the amp. The Badger 30 has a really great clean tone. I really like the character of the clean as you start to drop some of the power on the power tubes.

    I just picked up a Pinnacle II from a fellow forum user and I'll see what I think. The sound clips are close to what I am searching for - until the next gas attach...
     
  7. brett336

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    I read a lot about treble boosters. Do you think that might work well to get a little more of the good thing that the Badger 30 offers?

    The next question would be: Which treble booster?

    Thanks

    BA
     
  8. brett336

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    So I have been useing the Pinnacle II on the Badger 30 and I do like the pedal. I can set up the amp to get me a good clean sound taht has just enough breakup when I roll the volume up and play a little harder. Then I can set the first stage of the Pinnacle to get a great overdive sound. The second stage of the Pinnacle does get me into the distorted sound that works for different applications.

    I do like the Pinnacle II a lot for the range of OD and distrotion along with the EQ options - I think that it is a keeper. I do wish that I could get a little more volume range out of it but that is that a big deal for me.

    Now, can anyone make a suggestion on a simple boost? Something that can just overdrive the front end without much added color. I saw a Fulltone suggestion (Fat boost) - is that a decent pedal?

    Thanks!

    BA
     
  9. amphead777

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    Get a good treble booster. If you've never used one, it will blow your mind.
     
  10. Rocket Brother

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    A friend of mine has a Badger 30 which I think is a fantastic amp. He uses the amp set up clean/semi clean and then uses a MI Audio Crunch Box for the Marshally side of things. I´ve played it more than a few times and it sounds wonderful, dynamic and rough. His isn´t set up for early VH tones, but I sure it could be done very easily and sound wicked.
    If I ever buy a Badger 30 (and I just might get one) I´ll definately put my MIA CB in front of it.
    Good luk
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  11. brett336

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    Ok - so it sounds like a good treble booster might be what I want to try next. I find that I like to run the Badger 30 with the gain on 6 and then run the drive higher than the power just enough to give the el34's some character. I can get a clean sound when I play easy that is acceptable to me for the stuff that I like to play. Then I can roll up the volume on my Strat and play a little harder and get some break up that I like.

    I am needing an OD (Or treble booster) that can take me to the next level. I'd like to keep the same character of the amp - just get more. I really don't want to add much color to the amp at that point. But a tone or EQ on the pedal might be nice to take any of the fizzy highs out of the signal.

    Will a treble booster get me what I need or should keep searching for the right OD?

    BA
     
  12. Cary Chilton

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    Brett, just a decent clean boost. I would recommend a vintage MXR mico amp and or DOD 250 analogman mojo 741 mod. Also, a vintage MXR 6 band and or a vintage GE-10 EQ. I wouldn't use a treble boost, per se. A vintage MXR phase 90 will add some
    sizzle. Ed used all of these MXR units, so.... checkem out
     
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    TS9 and a replica.
     
  15. Cary Chilton

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    A ts9 will never get close to VH tones.... the type amp that is used with the type of pedal is everything.
     
  16. brett336

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    Actually, if I could just find a pedal that would take my Badger 30 from 6 on the gain to about an 8.5 just by stomping on the pedal, I would be satisfied.

    I am looking for someting that just gives me more a good thing and I feel like on the verge of going though about a $1000 worth of ebay pedals looking for "That" sound in my head.

    I know, I know - joint the club :jo

    On another note, if anyone has seen this youTube video demo that Pete Thorn has out there: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5N88mHMBW0

    I would love to know what the overdrive is and what he has in the loop at about 8:50 in the video. I know that he mentions a lot of the effects that he is using but it's unclear to me what combination that he has going on at that point in the demo.

    Thanks!

    BA
     
  17. slambango

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    Sounds like you're describing the Crowther Hot Cake.

    Mellower than the OCD. Retains amp/guitar character. Works as a clean boost, or OD. Jumpers inside allow you to switch from standard to bluesberry mode, and normal or extra bass mode.
     

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