New Chase Bliss / Meris CXM 1978

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  1. guitarman92

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    Then I’ll call them fraternal twins rather than identical twins
     
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    Of course software and preset manager exists I meant something fast and easy for live settings, not in a desktop computer or screen hehe.
     
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  3. PurpleJesus

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    Lexicon 224 w the Plate algo made for a pedalboard!!!!!

    Over the moon happy about this. Never thought it’d happen. I’m preordering the moment they put it up.

    To those of you that haven’t tried the old Lexicon racks like the 224, PCM 80/90, you’re in for a treat. It’s hard to describe how good they sound other than to say they sound real, and not at all digital. The Plate algorithms by themselves are worth the price of admission. Does it sound better than whatever you’re currently using? Unless your current reverb was built by Bricasti, this will sound significantly better than whatever you’re using. No qualifiers. No “your mileage may vary”. There’s just nothing better sounding than those original Lexi verbs.
     
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    The Empress Echosystem (and Reverb?) LED’s will light up when you turn the knobs to the current preset. Not sure of any others.
     
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    Maybe CB can team up with somebody to make a little 2290 delay box too.
     
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    My favorite company and possibly the coolest too!
     
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    I am cautiously optimistic about the sudden emergence of these wildly unapologetic, spare-no-expense units. I love seeing the envelope pushed. I love that pedals are developing into mature and uncompromising sound design. I do not love that I'm even considering a pedal that's priced like a Hot Rod Deluxe or a Player Stratocaster, and what that might mean for the future of the industry.

    The new form factor is obviously magnificent - but surely we could be allowed to have the same algorithms for a peasant's ransom of $300 or 350. I'll be disappointed if all the hard work and top-notch sound designs start to get locked away behind prohibitively expensive hardware.
     
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    For those more familiar with the inspiration for this, would you say this would work in front of a NMV amp or does it 'need' to be in a loop? I have no loop but LOVE plate reverb. Somewhat getting by with a Dr. Scientist RRR but it gets a little 'dirtier' out front than I like a lot of the time.
     
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    Yeah with the salvation Army or a local food bank, so the pricing isn't purely aristocratic and high brow.
     
  10. hippieboy

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    pitch factor too, but it's cumbersome, you have to move the knobs and the lights tell you if you have moved too much or too less.
     
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    I agree with everything you say, and this is a very good point.
     
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    And that’s what’s making me hopeful for non-automated versions of these pedals. Keep the midi functionality, but save money without the motors.
     
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    I tried to get verb sounds on the floor that were as good as my old rack verbs, going through Big Sky, Wet, & Eventide H9, before biting the bullet and going back to rack effects. There's something about the PCM81 verbs that just does it for me. I'm also partial to the Eventide Orville and Eclipse, but they mostly get used for delay, and that mysterious netherworld between delay and verb.
     
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    Come on, come on...let’s hit that $1,000 mark. Come on CBA, hit that $1,000 mark. We need it. Do it. Pop the hood. Do it.
     
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    funny, I just spent last night searching online for old lexicon racks and plugins, I think this could be the perfect solution.
     
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    We don't know yet what the price will be, but to give some perspective on this;

    In the studio world, the only hardware reverb with motorized faders I know is the TC electronic System 6000. I've sold a few of these, they retail for 12500€, so around 15000$? They have 4 engines, so it's not the same of course, but if the CXM 1978 is 'only' 1/20 of that price, it's still a steal for studio use.

    It looks like they expanded on the Meris Mercury 7, since that one only has 2 basic algorithms (cathedral, ultraplate), and this one has 3 (hall, room, plate).
    I never played with a real 224 (although the Universal Audio plug-in version is excellent) but I have experience with the Lexicon 480, 960, PCM 70-80-90-etc.
    It's a good time to be alive.
     
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    mk2 with touch screen LED “motors” in half the size.

    wait that’s an idea....
     
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    The Big Sky, Timeline, and Volante all have ways to easily tell where the knobs are set for each preset too. There are definitely ways to convey that information without using motorized sliders. The sliders seem like they're primarily a "cool factor" thing.
     
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  20. Gallery

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    Easily? Nope.
     
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